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MrPoopersPenguin said:
Once again, read carefully. I never claimed to be giving anything other than my opinion. However, my opinion is correct. (When you resort to calling your opponent’s position “stupid,” you have lost.) and how people spend their time on a public forum has everything to do with me. Actually, how people spend their time at any moment has everything to do with me insofar as it relates to society’s productivity and advancement.
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I pronounce you idiotic and condescending.
 
Wednesday said:
MrPoopersPenguin said:
Once again, read carefully. I never claimed to be giving anything other than my opinion. However, my opinion is correct. (When you resort to calling your opponent’s position “stupid,” you have lost.) and how people spend their time on a public forum has everything to do with me. Actually, how people spend their time at any moment has everything to do with me insofar as it relates to society’s productivity and advancement.
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I pronounce you idiotic and condescending.
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You’ve lost the debate. You have failed to engage with my position at all. You simply desire to make pronouncements unsupported by logic or facts.

I probably am a condescending person though, but I hold that it is a virtue.
 
How people spend their time on an Internet forum actually really does have nothing to do with you. We are just curious people stating what think and learning as we share. You could’ve decided to ignore this thread and continued on your marry way but instead you chose to tell us that exploring our opinions in this form was a pointless decision. In fact I think this has been great decision for me because I’m actually learning about how things work in other countries. Now if you truly wanted to make an impact on this thread you could’ve continued to explain what communism is but you didn’t you continued to be butt hurt that Wednesday wasn’t engaging in a debate with you and just wanted to you to leave her thread alone. So please do consider this a nice way of telling you to leave this thread alone and let us continue to share our views without judgment, okay? Thanks :)
 
Maddi_Matsu said:
How people spend their time on an Internet forum actually really does have nothing to do with you. We are just curious people stating what think and learning as we share. You could’ve decided to ignore this thread and continued on your marry way but instead you chose to tell us that exploring our opinions in this form was a pointless decision. In fact I think this has been great decision for me because I’m actually learning about how things work in other countries. Now if you truly wanted to make an impact on this thread you could’ve continued to explain what communism is but you didn’t you continued to be butt hurt that Wednesday wasn’t engaging in a debate with you and just wanted to you to leave her thread alone. So please do consider this a nice way of telling you to leave this thread alone and let us continue to share our views without judgment, okay? Thanks :)
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Learn to write first. And then learn to read.

And if you want to learn about how things work in other countries, use reputable sources and not strangers on the internet.
 
Look I did read everything that you said and it was really just saying that making this thread was pointless and to go ask people in the real world what they think. (For example neighbors) While you may not like it that is exactly what is happening her, sure the opinion might be professional or anything but it’s based on experience, and I personally feel that that has its own value.

And while I do understand where you’re coming from on the whole reputable source thing that wasn’t what I meant. I meant I like seeing and learning how everyday people from other countries feel about things work politically wise and having the chance to expand on that opinion with minimal judgment. That’s not something I can I get from a book or a verified website, those are summarized opinions that are never expanded on and typically written by a singular person. Also I haven’t learned much about how the economics or government works in other countries in my history classes other than how it has effected our government.

Excuse me for being curious.

I’m sure you’re a grown adult so there is no point in you continuing to argue with a person who I’m sure is probably much younger than you.
 
A better love story than twilight:

A conservative and a liberal went to a ganja bar. The conservative asked: do you have paper? The liberal said: yes. Can you roll? Then they rolled up a blunt. Light it up. And lived happily ever after. The end.
 
MrPoopersPenguin said:
Also, as someone with historical training with an over-emphasis on Russian and Soviet history, Stalinism was an inevitable result of Marxism-Leninism as implemented in the Soviet Union after the fall of the Provisional Government.



Not talking about Communism’s pros and cons. Not defending Capitalism. Simply stating an historical fact.

If you disagree, fine. However, you are wrong.
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okay but marxism-leninism is still different from just marxism. ? and stalinism is diffferent from marxism-leninism. that's why they're called differently. i'm sure there are many precautions to take to ensure corruption and greed does not overtake. but yeah i personally don't like communism regardless. i'm a socialist
 
Muschi said:
MrPoopersPenguin said:
Also, as someone with historical training with an over-emphasis on Russian and Soviet history, Stalinism was an inevitable result of Marxism-Leninism as implemented in the Soviet Union after the fall of the Provisional Government.



Not talking about Communism’s pros and cons. Not defending Capitalism. Simply stating an historical fact.

If you disagree, fine. However, you are wrong.
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okay but marxism-leninism is still different from just marxism. ? and stalinism is diffferent from marxism-leninism. that's why they're called differently. i'm sure there are many precautions to take to ensure corruption and greed does not overtake. but yeah i personally don't like communism regardless. i'm a socialist
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That's interesting. Socialist, but not a communist.
But, don't you think if there is socialism, like the state owns absolutely everything, it will eventually lead to communism? Isn't that what's Marx's theory all about?
 
Lowkey I find it ~weird~ that us Americans had to VOTE for women’s and gay’s rights. Like, there was some people that went against the thought of all humans having basic equality. Like who wants to demote the very bodies that gave you LIFE? Who wants to demote the idea that love is love? Now it’s abortion. I get it about you pro-lifers, but I’m sorry - a woman’s body is a woman’s body. If that /bAbY/ is inside her body and chose to live inside her and survive off of her, then the woman is the boss. Don’t hit me with the “it’s your fault that you got the child conceived”, like no. Rape happens. Child control isn’t 100%. And you wanna tell me that there’s a lot of couples out there begging for child? Hun, there’s over 100,000 children in the US alone that’s still not adopted - tell me why they haven’t been adopted by those same couples. Why don’t you adopt my baby? Are you willing to take care of it? It’s a woman’s body. If you don’t like abortion, dude I TOTALLY support you - you don’t have to abort any time in your life! But that doesn’t mean that you have to ban it. People don’t even know that they’re pregnant when the FETUS is 6 weeks old - a FETUS that doesn’t have the ability to even think yet. Yes, it’s human. But it’s a bunch of human cells. We never get lynched for exfoliating. Banning abortion is not going to prevent it - before abortion was a thing, woman have died trying to attempt abortion through unsanitary and unsafe methods - whether it’s sticking a rusty clothes hanger up there or...you can imagine the rest. It’s not going to stop it, but make it worse. If you still don’t like abortion, that’s fine with me. But some do. And some NEED it. Our bodies, are OUR bodies. (Honestly, if men could get pregnant, abortion clinics would be like Starbucks - everywhere.)
 
itsjellybean said:
Lowkey I find it ~weird~ that us Americans had to VOTE for women’s and gay’s rights. Like, there was some people that went against the thought of all humans having basic equality. Like who wants to demote the very bodies that gave you LIFE? Who wants to demote the idea that love is love? Now it’s abortion. I get it about you pro-lifers, but I’m sorry - a woman’s body is a woman’s body. If that /bAbY/ is inside her body and chose to live inside her and survive off of her, then the woman is the boss. Don’t hit me with the “it’s your fault that you got the child conceived”, like no. ​​***** happens. Child control isn’t 100%. And you wanna tell me that there’s a lot of couples out there begging for child? Hun, there’s over 100,000 children in the US alone that’s still not adopted - tell me why they haven’t been adopted by those same couples. Why don’t you adopt my baby? Are you willing to take care of it? It’s a woman’s body. If you don’t like abortion, dude I TOTALLY support you - you don’t have to abort any time in your life! But that doesn’t mean that you have to ban it. People don’t even know that they’re pregnant when the FETUS is 6 weeks old - a FETUS that doesn’t have the ability to even think yet. Yes, it’s human. But it’s a bunch of human cells. We never get ​​********* for exfoliating. Banning abortion is not going to prevent it - before abortion was a thing, woman have died trying to attempt abortion through unsanitary and unsafe methods - whether it’s sticking a rusty clothes hanger up there or...you can imagine the rest. It’s not going to stop it, but make it worse. If you still don’t like abortion, that’s fine with me. But some do. And some NEED it. Our bodies, are OUR bodies. (Honestly, if men could get pregnant, abortion clinics would be like Starbucks - everywhere.)
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Understandable , but precautions should be taken , especially since there is a new law , saying how once a heartbeat is detected you can no longer have an abortion. Idk my feelings on that tbh . & yeah the military acknowledging transgender people by their birth gender is crazy too . I understand your points . It’s very sad in USA
 
Gandalf said:
Muschi said:
MrPoopersPenguin said:
Also, as someone with historical training with an over-emphasis on Russian and Soviet history, Stalinism was an inevitable result of Marxism-Leninism as implemented in the Soviet Union after the fall of the Provisional Government.



Not talking about Communism’s pros and cons. Not defending Capitalism. Simply stating an historical fact.

If you disagree, fine. However, you are wrong.
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okay but marxism-leninism is still different from just marxism. ? and stalinism is diffferent from marxism-leninism. that's why they're called differently. i'm sure there are many precautions to take to ensure corruption and greed does not overtake. but yeah i personally don't like communism regardless. i'm a socialist
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That's interesting. Socialist, but not a communist.
But, don't you think if there is socialism, like the state owns absolutely everything, it will eventually lead to communism? Isn't that what's Marx's theory all about?
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Next Week On "I Don't Read Theory"
 
Gandalf said:
Muschi said:
MrPoopersPenguin said:
Also, as someone with historical training with an over-emphasis on Russian and Soviet history, Stalinism was an inevitable result of Marxism-Leninism as implemented in the Soviet Union after the fall of the Provisional Government.



Not talking about Communism’s pros and cons. Not defending Capitalism. Simply stating an historical fact.

If you disagree, fine. However, you are wrong.
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okay but marxism-leninism is still different from just marxism. ? and stalinism is diffferent from marxism-leninism. that's why they're called differently. i'm sure there are many precautions to take to ensure corruption and greed does not overtake. but yeah i personally don't like communism regardless. i'm a socialist
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That's interesting. Socialist, but not a communist.
But, don't you think if there is socialism, like the state owns absolutely everything, it will eventually lead to communism? Isn't that what's Marx's theory all about?
Click to expand...
Next Week On "I Don't Read Theory"
 
Muschi said:
MrPoopersPenguin said:
Also, as someone with historical training with an over-emphasis on Russian and Soviet history, Stalinism was an inevitable result of Marxism-Leninism as implemented in the Soviet Union after the fall of the Provisional Government.



Not talking about Communism’s pros and cons. Not defending Capitalism. Simply stating an historical fact.

If you disagree, fine. However, you are wrong.
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okay but marxism-leninism is still different from just marxism. ? and stalinism is diffferent from marxism-leninism. that's why they're called differently. i'm sure there are many precautions to take to ensure corruption and greed does not overtake. but yeah i personally don't like communism regardless. i'm a socialist
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Firstly, I never said anything about pure Marxism. I referred to Marxism-Leninism. Secondly, Stalinism was the inevitable outgrowth of Marxism-Leninism. They are not the same, just as a parent is not the same as his child.
 
itsjellybean said:
Lowkey I find it ~weird~ that us Americans had to VOTE for women’s and gay’s rights. Like, there was some people that went against the thought of all humans having basic equality. Like who wants to demote the very bodies that gave you LIFE? Who wants to demote the idea that love is love? Now it’s abortion. I get it about you pro-lifers, but I’m sorry - a woman’s body is a woman’s body. If that /bAbY/ is inside her body and chose to live inside her and survive off of her, then the woman is the boss. Don’t hit me with the “it’s your fault that you got the child conceived”, like no. ​​***** happens. Child control isn’t 100%. And you wanna tell me that there’s a lot of couples out there begging for child? Hun, there’s over 100,000 children in the US alone that’s still not adopted - tell me why they haven’t been adopted by those same couples. Why don’t you adopt my baby? Are you willing to take care of it? It’s a woman’s body. If you don’t like abortion, dude I TOTALLY support you - you don’t have to abort any time in your life! But that doesn’t mean that you have to ban it. People don’t even know that they’re pregnant when the FETUS is 6 weeks old - a FETUS that doesn’t have the ability to even think yet. Yes, it’s human. But it’s a bunch of human cells. We never get ​​********* for exfoliating. Banning abortion is not going to prevent it - before abortion was a thing, woman have died trying to attempt abortion through unsanitary and unsafe methods - whether it’s sticking a rusty clothes hanger up there or...you can imagine the rest. It’s not going to stop it, but make it worse. If you still don’t like abortion, that’s fine with me. But some do. And some NEED it. Our bodies, are OUR bodies. (Honestly, if men could get pregnant, abortion clinics would be like Starbucks - everywhere.)
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️ This is unadulterated gibberish that has no historical, or even philosophical, basis! Although we might disagree with people from different times, you have taken no measures to understand them. You simply wish to create strawmen and then pontificate against them. If you are capable, I suggest that you read G. K. Chesterton’s What’s Wrong with the World.
 
Maddi_Matsu said:
You know implying that we cannot read or write is same thing as calling us stupid. Just saying. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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I think you can read. You might not read things worth reading, but I am sure you can, Fire.

And she might have a hard time finding it. It is rather old.

And most people cannot write today. State schools and the democratization of education have ensured that sad reality.
 
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