Veganism Q&A

I am vegetarian and trying to be a vegan, I don't eat fake meat as I can easily live on a fruitarian diet like my entire life lol, I am involved with peta because I love animals and I strongly believe that their lives aren't ours to eat or experiment on.
One of my favorite quotes is by Paul McCartney - " if slaughterhouses had glass walls everyone would be a vegetarian "
Ps if you haven't I will recommend watching glass walls by peta, but I will warn you watch it at your own risk
 
_-iWednesdayDonutLikeYou-_ said:
CherryNova said:
What vegan wears alpaca wool?? Vegans don’t wear any clothing deprived from animals. Plant eaters yes, vegans no.
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there are people who identify as vegans who do. If someone does not contribute to the harming of animals i don't see the need for the gatekeeping. Same opinion on ppl who had leather boots or smthing prior to going vegan and then decided to keep wearing them since they already had them. I don’t like stigmatizing ppl who are doing everything they need to be in the vegan community
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There’s a big difference in keeping your old leather shoes and buying new items including animal products which are not necessary. They can be in the community it’s not black and white but it’s not vegan to buy and use animal products in any form if it’s not life threatening.
 
phoenix_ash said:
I am vegetarian and trying to be a vegan, I don't eat fake meat as I can easily live on a fruitarian diet like my entire life lol, I am involved with peta because I love animals and I strongly believe that their lives aren't ours to eat or experiment on.
One of my favorite quotes is by Paul McCartney - " if slaughterhouses had glass walls everyone would be a vegetarian "
Ps if you haven't I will recommend watching glass walls by peta, but I will warn you watch it at your own risk
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PETA is a horrible organization and actively harms animals. I suggest finding another organization to support.Here are just a few exposés.
 
Muschi said:
phoenix_ash said:
I am vegetarian and trying to be a vegan, I don't eat fake meat as I can easily live on a fruitarian diet like my entire life lol, I am involved with peta because I love animals and I strongly believe that their lives aren't ours to eat or experiment on.
One of my favorite quotes is by Paul McCartney - " if slaughterhouses had glass walls everyone would be a vegetarian "
Ps if you haven't I will recommend watching glass walls by peta, but I will warn you watch it at your own risk
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PETA is a horrible organization and actively harms animals. I suggest finding another organization to support.Here are just a few exposés.
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I myself don't support euthanization and I believe it's cruel and unjustified, we can't decide whether an animal deserves to die or live. Peta in my country doesn't practice this so that's why I support them mostly because of their other contributions which however don't justify it
 
Re: Veganism Q

I want to be a vegan but food choices around me is very limited.

Plus I'm a breastfeeding mom. What foods can you recommend to me?
 
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Luminous_Clover said:
I want to be a vegan but food choices around me is very limited.

Plus I'm a breastfeeding mom. What foods can you recommend to me?
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Rather than starting from the get-go, it's easier to limit your intake on animal products. Especially as a breastfeeding mother, you don’t have the option rn to get to know your body and find out how much calcium/b12/etc you would need to feel your best since u have to care for your kid's health too. It's better to wait til after before you start testing new things. Or consider pescetarianism until you aren’t breastfeeding anymore
 
Muschi said:
phoenix_ash said:
I am vegetarian and trying to be a vegan, I don't eat fake meat as I can easily live on a fruitarian diet like my entire life lol, I am involved with peta because I love animals and I strongly believe that their lives aren't ours to eat or experiment on.
One of my favorite quotes is by Paul McCartney - " if slaughterhouses had glass walls everyone would be a vegetarian "
Ps if you haven't I will recommend watching glass walls by peta, but I will warn you watch it at your own risk
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PETA is a horrible organization and actively harms animals. I suggest finding another organization to support.Here are just a few exposés.
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2nd-ed. Not a fan of PETA. They are also prone to bending the truth or creating science in an attempt to force veganism which i don't like. People should be getting a proper informed decision before switching. A good person for that sort of thing @anyonewhocares is the youtube "unnatural vegan." She keeps things strictly scientific and doesn't say things like ppl don't need protein
 
CherryNova said:
There’s a big difference in keeping your old leather shoes and buying new items including animal products which are not necessary. They can be in the community it’s not black and white but it’s not vegan to buy and use animal products in any form if it’s not life threatening.
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I never claimed it was. I just said that there were some vegans who did.
 
_-iWednesdayDonutLikeYou-_ said:
Quimey said:
Another big problem: what do you do if you have to choose the welfare of certain species over others?
For example, we humans, can do well without consuming animal products in any aspect of our life. But cats are carnivore, not omnivore (they only eat veggies to clean their intestines). And even cat's food of the best premium brand alone isn't enough. They're supposed to eat real animal meat 25% of their diet (for example, chicken). I admit that I'm lazy and mine eat mostly cat's food and less often some animal food (mostly canned tuna, which I don't think it's good because of the salt)... But what to do in such cases? You'd be giving an not enough nutritional diet to your cats if you completely exclude animal meat...
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I think carnivores are supposed to eat meat. There is a huge difference imo between a lion killing a gazelle who has lived a free life in nature until they die and a ton of cows kept in a dark shed for their life. As for cat food or other carnivores in captivity, I think if humans stopped eating meat we could find a sustainable way to get meat. Ideally from pests and roadkill or hunted meat (which if properly done, i am not 100% against. I would not eat it or do it and i don't think the majority should.)
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Interesting.
 
What do you eat for protien, calcium, and iron? How much of said foods must you eat to reach your RDAs?
 
_-iWednesdayDonutLikeYou-_ said:
Quimey said:
Another big problem: what do you do if you have to choose the welfare of certain species over others?
For example, we humans, can do well without consuming animal products in any aspect of our life. But cats are carnivore, not omnivore (they only eat veggies to clean their intestines). And even cat's food of the best premium brand alone isn't enough. They're supposed to eat real animal meat 25% of their diet (for example, chicken). I admit that I'm lazy and mine eat mostly cat's food and less often some animal food (mostly canned tuna, which I don't think it's good because of the salt)... But what to do in such cases? You'd be giving an not enough nutritional diet to your cats if you completely exclude animal meat...
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I think carnivores are supposed to eat meat. There is a huge difference imo between a lion killing a gazelle who has lived a free life in nature until they die and a ton of cows kept in a dark shed for their life. As for cat food or other carnivores in captivity, I think if humans stopped eating meat we could find a sustainable way to get meat. Ideally from pests and roadkill or hunted meat (which if properly done, i am not 100% against. I would not eat it or do it and i don't think the majority should.)
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Okay so if we hunt animals, that's okay.
But we can't even milk a cow?
 
_-iWednesdayDonutLikeYou-_ said:
Introducing a predator rather than a mass murder which is what i think? Quimey was suggesting
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Wild cats predate many native species in Australia and you're considered a disgrace if you let your cat outside to hunt and live 'naturally'

Cats are an invasive species.

Afaik cats have no natural predators and aren't outmatched by many things in the food chain... So if anthing predated them, they would surely predate other things.
Humans are literally the best answer to that problem and we would be remisce to waste the dead cats by not consuming them.

But this is a vegetarian issues, not vegan.?
 
Re: Veganism Q

Luminous_Clover said:
I want to be a vegan but food choices around me is very limited.

Plus I'm a breastfeeding mom. What foods can you recommend to me?
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When pregnant and gestating and providing your child with food, follow your gut and cravings. You should experiment with your diet when your kid isn't depriving their nutrients from you unless ur willing to take the risk of not giving them the right nutrition.
 
H0MOSEXUAL said:
What do you eat for protien, calcium, and iron? How much of said foods must you eat to reach your RDAs?
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I hear that hummus is okay for protein
Most beans and nuts (though i hear the nut industry is terribly unsustainable)
are good for protein

There's also this plant called Malunggya or (westernized) Moriga or Drumstick Tree in the Philippines that gets eaten cause it's super rich in calcium and is consumed in place of milk. When I googled it just then, Okra had a similar concentration of calcium so that might be easier to get.

I believe Spinach is notoriously rich in Iron (500 grams of cooked spinach meets the RDI). But legumes work too (500 grams of lentils also work).
250 grams of chickpeas will also set you at your RDI of Protein.

Vegans rarely get enough iron. It is possible but people ofte cop out and take supplements.

?I just googled all those iron content stats.
 
Yeah, I know you can get iron from broccoli and stuff. I was just figuring the amount you'd need to eat everyday would make your pee stink terribly. Same thing with getting all your protien from beans, that's a large commitment to bathroom time

Also your body doesn't absorb nutrients from supplements very well.
 
H0MOSEXUAL said:
What do you eat for protien, calcium, and iron? How much of said foods must you eat to reach your RDAs?
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I like beans/lentils and bean products like hummus. Idk the exact amount but i feel healthy and my blood results are nice as long as i have a serving a day. For calcium, broccoli and leafy greens like spinach. There's also calcium fortified into almond milk. For iron, it's all in the beans/lentils/potatoes/bread/etc. Kefo is incorrect in his assumption about iron and vegans. The vitamins vegans really tend to have trouble with are calcium and b12 (which is a very specific protein that only comes from animals so it needs to be gotten in fortifed products or multivitamins). Personally, i take an iron supplement but i needed it before veganism, it's common problem for women in general.
 
Kefo said:
Your views on antivenin? Made from Venom harvested from snakes.
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If you're referring to the venom that is placed in horses and sheep and stuff to grow, it's abuse and speciest and I am not okay with it.
 
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