UPDATE The Great Dorm Tower Update

[Pray]

The only question I have with this conversation is:

Who do you think are the ones snatching UP tuts and fv them? From what I've experienced with this update, its the players that are end game and haven't gotten the rebalance yet. Not the ones who've gotten the rebalance. I'm specifically talking about the high cost tutors, 100T+.

Yeah, so no. Everyone hiring my tuts were players who received the refund. Hope this helps. I didn’t receive the update and I was nearly 600mcs before the update when I was losing tuts left and right but my tuts were considerably much bigger than yours. If you were getting fv by bigger players, it was likely due to the fact we lost ours and had to store cash in lower tuts.

 

[_--_xX__TONY__Xx_--_]

Dear ata, again, I've upgraded with the refund, but there's no change in my stat, why that happened?

 

[SINGLE_M4LT]

The only dorm mate that gets converted into a T11 is a T14L4. The others are converted into a T10 (level changes depending on the T14 level). We made these changes due to a lot of feedback in the beta that players would rather have more cash and be lower stats to choose how they want to upgrade, rather than have us do it for them.

Dude it's prefer t9 not the waste of money t10 you guys robbed us.. did us dirty . You guys are scammers of worst kind

 

[MoodyHexedSiren]

Remember when all you high-stat players were begging for this update and now whining that you have it. Crazy please decide what you want ty

Our upgrades are no way near as drastic as yalls were. So again this upgrade is NOT FAIR to us that we’re over 150mcs

 

[Maazi]

The only dorm mate that gets converted into a T11 is a T14L4. The others are converted into a T10 (level changes depending on the T14 level). We made these changes due to a lot of feedback in the beta that players would rather have more cash and be lower stats to choose how they want to upgrade, rather than have us do it for them.

You guys Should Have Just converted our T14s into T8s/T9s and gave us the Refunds. Which would have allowed us to Upgrade Freely, in Whatever way we Wanted.

**This was due to feedback from the beta where players wanted a bit more flexibility in picking their build at higher levels (Thats what you said)**

Where is the flexibility when you have already decided for us End game players that our T14s get converted Into T10s??

Nobody wants T10s, They are a Nuisance.
They are No better than a T9 3 star. Just way overpriced.


I would rather have 868T in 98 T9L4s with 768Mcs Stats and get refunded 3.167Q
Than
Having 3.126Q cash in 98 T10s being 818Mcs Stats with a Refund of 909T.

We have been to The Top tier (T14), We want to be on the Top tier (T11). We don't want to waste Cash on overpriced, good for nothing T10s.

 

[Jenny]

First question, do you have any tuts above 100t? I checked out your tuts and they’re less than 50t. It’s the ones that got the refunds that are hiring.

How would I know? Because it only started today after the refunds. The past few weeks, no one hired. You can’t use stats as benchmark to tell if someone is end game (according to ATA) as people with higher stats than me have gotten the update too.

One of the few reason how the end game players are fv your tuts is because the ones that got the refunds, stole theirs first. It creates a cycle. Once you lose tuts that you actually own, you’ll end up hiring others so you’ll make up for the loss. Then hire back the original tut.

When players with no tuts that are active or big enough, they have that spare cash and need not have any commitment to bump so they end up hiring randomly. But for the bigger ones that do, they’d focus on bumping and OPing their own tuts.

You think if we have the same amount of cash, we want to keep the tuts UP? At least during promo, people upgrade and also earn money through parties proportionately. Now it’s like the newer players just ended BF and end game players were excluded JUST BECAUSE

Your first paragraph is incorrect. And your second paragraph is also incorrect. If you believe that end game players were not hiring tuts before this, you just got lucky. Several of my tuts got stolen, several of my friends tuts got stolen. I'm not an end game player, I'm very much middle of the pack so my tuts were not very expensive. But my friends had tuts that grew to 100s of mcs, stolen and FV far out of their reach when the updates were going out for early to mid players. By end game players who hadn't, and still haven't, gotten the update.

 

[iSeekDaTruth]

You guys Should Have Just converted our T14s into T8s/T9s and gave us the Refunds. Which would have allowed us to Upgrade Freely, in Whatever way we Wanted.

**This was due to feedback from the beta where players wanted a bit more flexibility in picking their build at higher levels (Thats what you said)**

Where is the flexibility when you have already decided for us End game players that our T14s get converted Into T10s??

Nobody wants T10s, They are a Nuisance.
They are No better than a T9 3 star. Just way overpriced.


I would rather have 868T in 98 T9L4s with 768Mcs Stats and get refunded 3.167Q
Than
Having 3.126Q cash in 98 T10s being 818Mcs Stats with a Refund of 909T.

We have been to The Top tier (T14), We want to be on the Top tier (T11). We don't want to waste Cash on overpriced, good for nothing T10s.

Agree on this bro

 

[iSeekDaTruth]

You guys Should Have Just converted our T14s into T8s/T9s and gave us the Refunds. Which would have allowed us to Upgrade Freely, in Whatever way we Wanted.

**This was due to feedback from the beta where players wanted a bit more flexibility in picking their build at higher levels (Thats what you said)**

Where is the flexibility when you have already decided for us End game players that our T14s get converted Into T10s??

Nobody wants T10s, They are a Nuisance.
They are No better than a T9 3 star. Just way overpriced.


I would rather have 868T in 98 T9L4s with 768Mcs Stats and get refunded 3.167Q
Than
Having 3.126Q cash in 98 T10s being 818Mcs Stats with a Refund of 909T.

We have been to The Top tier (T14), We want to be on the Top tier (T11). We don't want to waste Cash on overpriced, good for nothing T10s.

They just wanna suck more cash out of us. This is day time robbery

 

[Mori]

Can Winston confirm if the devs are looking into t10s and their layout? A lot of players are creating guides around the current layout as t10s are pretty useless and give about the same amount of mcs for a larger cost.

 

[Displeasure]

Your first paragraph is incorrect. And your second paragraph is also incorrect. If you believe that end game players were not hiring tuts before this, you just got lucky. Several of my tuts got stolen, several of my friends tuts got stolen. I'm not an end game player, I'm very much middle of the pack so my tuts were not very expensive. But my friends had tuts that grew to 100s of mcs, stolen and FV far out of their reach when the updates were going out for early to mid players. By end game players who hadn't, and still haven't, gotten the update.

If you didn’t use the promo to solo, that’s on you. Back then when people hired, you could actually solo to earn the cash to hire back. Now you can’t do anything because they’re at an advantage. We have no source of cash. Meanwhile they have sudden influx. The cash from the promo have been used to bump during the promo period.

How to get more cash now?

 

[Jenny]

If you didn’t use the promo to solo, that’s on you. Back then when people hired, you could actually solo to earn the cash to hire back. Now you can’t do anything because they’re at an advantage. We have no source of cash. Meanwhile they have sudden influx. The cash from the promo have been used to bump during the promo period.

How to get more cash now?

By your same logic, if you didnt use the promo to preemptively bump your tuts or stash away for the update (that you knew was coming) thats on you.

 

[Jenny]

You can be upset that you're losing tuts, but the same people losing tuts now were also hiring on the previous updates, especially during promo. I lost several tuts but instead of blaming the update i took that money and put it into the tuts i care about and I knew would get the update.

 

[_Lune_]

My math still tells me is better to skip tiers. Here what I got doing it on my tower:

T6 3️ to T7 - 75.8B
T7 1️ - 10B
T7 2️ - 15.6B
T7 3️ - 22.3B
T7 3️ to T8 - 621B
T8 1️ - 82.4B
T8 2️ - 128B
T8 3️ - 183B
T8 3️ to T9 - 5T
Total spent from on updating from T6 3️ to T9: 6.14T

T6 3️ to T9 skip cost 5.6T

 

[Displeasure]

By your same logic, if you didnt use the promo to preemptively bump your tuts or stash away for the update (that you knew was coming) thats on you.

I was assuming I’d be the next batch…? People around my stats got the update. ATA gave the extra cp that allow us to solo to earn more money to bump all the tuts at that point in time. After that, you’ll prolly bank or keep minimally 100t coh just in case. You don’t keep 1 or 2Q coh as it will cost a lot of drops and dns. Assuming that you’ll get the refund soon so you can ug and solo again after the update will be the logical thing to do.

By my definition, there should be a promo and special cp now for those who haven’t gotten the update yet.

 

[Displeasure]

You can be upset that you're losing tuts, but the same people losing tuts now were also hiring on the previous updates, especially during promo. I lost several tuts but instead of blaming the update i took that money and put it into the tuts i care about and I knew would get the update.

Please enlighten me how can I get 2Q rn to bump the tuts I care about like you said? How many drops it’ll take? How many DNS? How many CP? If there’s a promo then it will be more attainable. But the promo got to be like BF level or even better rates

 

[Jenny]

I was assuming I’d be the next batch…? People around my stats got the update. ATA gave the extra cp that allow us to solo to earn more money to bump all the tuts at that point in time. After that, you’ll prolly bank or keep minimally 100t coh just in case. You don’t keep 1 or 2Q coh as it will cost a lot of drops and dns. Assuming that you’ll get the refund soon so you can ug and solo again after the update will be the logical thing to do.

By my definition, there should be a promo and special cp now for those who haven’t gotten the update yet.

so you assumed wrong and are mad at the update for it, thats what i got out of this. You basically just told me i shouldve soloed during the promo for money to rehire my tuts. Why is that logic not applied to you and preplanning the update?

 

[Jenny]

Please enlighten me how can I get 2Q rn to bump the tuts I care about like you said? How many drops it’ll take? How many DNS? How many CP? If there’s a promo then it will be more attainable. But the promo got to be like BF level or even better rates

and if i was a 20mcs that got my tut snatched that had previously been 10mcs and is now 60mcs, I wouldve had to solo a lot to make the money to afford that. You're complaining that end game players are screwed but the SAME thing happened to smaller players. Their tuts got snatched up by bigger players, you just don't care.

 

[Displeasure]

so you assumed wrong and are mad at the update for it, thats what i got out of this. You basically just told me i shouldve soloed during the promo for money to rehire my tuts. Why is that logic not applied to you and preplanning the update?

Because the previous promo was ongoing during the refund period for that batch. It was used to bump all those who grew from 10-50mcs to 150mcs+. The spare money could only take you so far. There’s things to do outside the game than 24/7 solo and tap your screen. Did you at least solo for 1Q during 4oj?

Now the upgrades are 100mcs+ all the way to 250mcs+++. Fella mentioned that everyone would be getting by Halloween. Meanwhile there’s prolly gonna be 2 promo but they’re not as huge.

I am trying to say there’s no decent enough promo right now to put those who haven’t gotten the update on equal standing to those who have. ATA day promo with extra cp was barely enough. You should solo to hire back the tuts but there is no platform to solo rn.

Earning 10-20t easily done through bumping but 100t+ is not as easy.

 

[Displeasure]

and if i was a 20mcs that got my tut snatched that had previously been 10mcs and is now 60mcs, I wouldve had to solo a lot to make the money to afford that. You're complaining that end game players are screwed but the SAME thing happened to smaller players. Their tuts got snatched up by bigger players, you just don't care.

That’s basically about 5t to about 30-40t? It’s attainable. I bump tuts with my rs, tuts and friends. It’s tiring but much faster than solo. It’s easier to find someone with 80-100t than someone who has 300-400t to bump tuts with.

Anyways, assuming that you didn’t get the update at the same time as the 10mcs tut, the last thing I would recommend is to ask around your friends, pup, etc. “Can you help hire my tut first? I’ll hire back when I have the cash” even if it’s bumped to 60t, it’s much easier to ask for help compared to asking someone to help with 500t or 600t.

This is actually from my own experience. If someone I know asks, it’s not wrong to help them. As for the end game who you said hired your friends tuts, please check with them if they had their tuts force vollied away by someone who got the update ? There’s a bunch of alts that’s been doing that.

The real enemy is ATA for letting all these continue without a care in the world.

 

[limoncello]

Well, I just want to ask again. What’s the point of this update for players in the third and fourth groups who are trying to keep their tuts? Like, I got a refund and now I’ll have to spend it on my tutors, whose stats have shot up completely out of control. On top of that, I’ve lost 20mcs in stats. My alt, which was under 15mcs, jumped to 28mcs without spending anything. I just logged into the game and the stats were already higher. Plus a bit of money in the bank. It’s strange, don’t you think? How on earth does it happen that people who’ve put a lot of effort into growing their account, who’ve spent money and time on solos and everything, who genuinely try to take various aspects of the game into account, end up, for the most part, staying in the same place (if not worse off), whilst those who didn’t bother have simply levelled up many times over? No offence to anyone, it’s just that it all looks extremely weird.