UPDATE The Great Dorm Tower Update

Hostile said:
Gang I was 300mcs before update and now I'm almost 600 same with my rs being almost 700mcs, bigger players didn't get railroaded they just got leveled out šŸ˜­ now that you're going to get 800T plus as a refund whereas they only got around 200T you can steal your tuts back
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By that time, theyā€™ll could fv with their friends and the tut gonna cost 100-300t more. Your whole refund goes to tuts. And your stats will remain lower than them. If you volley them yourself, the profit goes to you. This time, youā€™re just giving people free ts šŸ˜‚
Checked your profile out and you donā€™t really have any tuts past 100t. Could be why youā€™re not that affected by it.

I havenā€™t found anything wrong with the refunds yet, itā€™s the gap between the different batches thatā€™s the issue.
 
pearl--genuine said:
I posted this on PAGE 9 of the forum. Way back when. This was a known concern for us players with t14s, and ATA had not addressed this at all until now when it has been implemented to our detriment.

For the past month, we could only blindly plan on what to do with the cash we earned on promos, and could only work with what ata told us, ie. Dormmates will be converted to closest CASH value. Hence we upgraded t14s to 1-star. And now look at the backlash from all unhappy players who spent during promos and realise they have now wasted cash.

To summarise the damage: by replacing our t14s with t10, each t11 dormmate would cost ~100t more.

It costs 62.9t to replace t10 with t11, plus the 31.9t ATA deducted from us for giving us the t10 itself. That means 62.9+31.9=94.8t for a base t11, instead of 69.3t (the cost of a normal t11)

So everyone is paying 25.5t extra just to keep their original stats if they are 980mcs.
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ATA had the audacity to suggest keep upgrading during ata day promo when concerns were raised regarding update.. they just wanted to rob us big..

This how people loose trust in the developers and a game.. you rob the same hand who feed you.
 
By the time the end-game players finally receive the update, and most of the undervalued tutors have already been snatched, force-volleyed, or otherwise, what compensation is there for the players who were made to wait?

Nobody asked for this update, and nobody asked to be placed in the last batch. Yet the rollout order itself creates an economic advantage for the batches that receive it first. They get earlier access to force volleys, higher income opportunities, and the ability to move tutors around before the later batches even have access to the same mechanics.

The same principle applies to money. The more cash you have, the more you can do to grow it. That means players with larger cash reserves can force-volley more tutors, generate more income, and compound that advantage further. By the time the later batch gets the update, many of the tutors that could have generated meaningful returns may already have been pushed UP by earlier batches.

So even if the later players receive a refund, is that really equivalent compensation? The nominal amount of money may be the same, but its purchasing power and earning potential within the new system are no longer the same.

Itā€™s like giving two players the same amount of money, but allowing one player to invest it months earlier while the other is forced to wait. When the second player finally gets access, the opportunities available to them have already changed.

The issue isnā€™t simply ā€œwe eventually get the same update.ā€ The issue is that the timing of access directly affects how much each batch can earn and what resources they can acquire before the market changes.

If the rollout delay creates a measurable economic disadvantage for later batches, there should at least be a discussion about what compensation or catch-up mechanism will address that disadvantage.
 
This would have been helpful to know from the beginning, when concerns about conversion of t14 to t11 were raised as early as page 9. This was told to us on page 57!

With earlier warning, we could all have planned our dorms better, to upgrade our t14s to 3 stars during the promos.

So instead of using our promo cash to upgrade as many t14s as we could to 1-star (which we did based on the misinformation given to us about ā€œconversion to closest cash costā€), we could at least have saved a few t14s by concentrating our cash to make them 3-star.
 
[ATA]Winston said:
The only dorm mate that gets converted into a T11 is a T14L4. The others are converted into a T10 (level changes depending on the T14 level). We made these changes due to a lot of feedback in the beta that players would rather have more cash and be lower stats to choose how they want to upgrade, rather than have us do it for them.
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Forgot to quote what comment I was referring to on page 57.

Based on Winstonā€™s logic, ATA has rolled out an update that forced 200mcs to be 500-600mcs, but is also kindly letting end-game spend 2.5Q extra to stay at their current stats? The stats they already paid for when they decided they wanted to be end-game? Like wdym?
 
The only question I have with this conversation is:

Who do you think are the ones snatching UP tuts and fv them? From what I've experienced with this update, its the players that are end game and haven't gotten the rebalance yet. Not the ones who've gotten the rebalance. I'm specifically talking about the high cost tutors, 100T+.
 
If they had given you all t11s instead of t10s as you are asking, just know you would have a cash deficit and have all your money pulled away and have no money to bump tuts and would have your tuts taken away as you all are saying. T9s were certainly better to give or they need to tweak t10s to be honest, as soon as the updates started rolling out, it was obvious t10s are bad and needs tweaking and a large player base will be around 300-500mcs and late game will be super hard.

And for the people saying, lower stats got upgraded 2-3x, well the multiples are easier to get at lower levels, a lot of people at lower stats faced a downgrade in stats too originally and after upgrading got that much higher, the update was never gonna make you 2-3x too if the new ceiling of max is same as before you can't be expecting to be like a bcs after upgrading and getting the new refund, they clearly made late game quite hard and it was obvious when new base t11s with same stats as base t14s costed more than double.
 
Gagan8611 said:
If they had given you all t11s instead of t10s as you are asking, just know you would have a cash deficit and have all your money pulled away and have no money to bump tuts and would have your tuts taken away as you all are saying. T9s were certainly better to give or they need to tweak t10s to be honest, as soon as the updates started rolling out, it was obvious t10s are bad and needs tweaking and a large player base will be around 300-500mcs and late game will be super hard.

And for the people saying, lower stats got upgraded 2-3x, well the multiples are easier to get at lower levels, a lot of people at lower stats faced a downgrade in stats too originally and after upgrading got that much higher, the update was never gonna make you 2-3x too if the new ceiling of max is same as before you can't be expecting to be like a bcs after upgrading and getting the new refund, they clearly made late game quite hard and it was obvious when new base t11s with same stats as base t14s costed more than double.
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Also to add to this they went as close to stats as they could and thus the downgrade in stats for earlier tiers, not sure why they went the money way for t14s, its definitely confusing on doing two different things here by ATA.
 
Jenny said:
The only question I have with this conversation is:

Who do you think are the ones snatching UP tuts and fv them? From what I've experienced with this update, its the players that are end game and haven't gotten the rebalance yet. Not the ones who've gotten the rebalance. I'm specifically talking about the high cost tutors, 100T+.
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First question, do you have any tuts above 100t? I checked out your tuts and theyā€™re less than 50t. Itā€™s the ones that got the refunds that are hiring.

How would I know? Because it only started today after the refunds. The past few weeks, no one hired. You canā€™t use stats as benchmark to tell if someone is end game (according to ATA) as people with higher stats than me have gotten the update too.

One of the few reason how the end game players are fv your tuts is because the ones that got the refunds, stole theirs first. It creates a cycle. Once you lose tuts that you actually own, youā€™ll end up hiring others so youā€™ll make up for the loss. Then hire back the original tut.

When players with no tuts that are active or big enough, they have that spare cash and need not have any commitment to bump so they end up hiring randomly. But for the bigger ones that do, theyā€™d focus on bumping and OPing their own tuts.

You think if we have the same amount of cash, we want to keep the tuts UP? At least during promo, people upgrade and also earn money through parties proportionately. Now itā€™s like the newer players just ended BF and end game players were excluded JUST BECAUSE
 
Hostile said:
Remember when all you high-stat players were begging for this update and now whining that you have it. Crazy please decide what you want ty
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This. Iā€™m sitting in bed rn on my belly with my legs in the air just scrolling through theseā€¦
 
Gagan8611 said:
If they had given you all t11s instead of t10s as you are asking, just know you would have a cash deficit and have all your money pulled away and have no money to bump tuts and would have your tuts taken away as you all are saying. T9s were certainly better to give or they need to tweak t10s to be honest, as soon as the updates started rolling out, it was obvious t10s are bad and needs tweaking and a large player base will be around 300-500mcs and late game will be super hard.

And for the people saying, lower stats got upgraded 2-3x, well the multiples are easier to get at lower levels, a lot of people at lower stats faced a downgrade in stats too originally and after upgrading got that much higher, the update was never gonna make you 2-3x too if the new ceiling of max is same as before you can't be expecting to be like a bcs after upgrading and getting the new refund, they clearly made late game quite hard and it was obvious when new base t11s with same stats as base t14s costed more than double.
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For me personally I spent a ton of money on ata day upgrading all my t14 to 1 star because that means they would cost more than a t11 and I should be able to have t11s after update. I could have just saved all that supply I wasted or used it to keep my tuts that Iā€™m losing but instead ata just have no clue what they are doing
 
Done spending money on this game if they gonna do such scam and smartly saying beta tester suggest so they don't have to take responsibility. Let us decide our tiers . Like I m having 98 t14s which 98 x 41.2T = 4.03 Q. I'd like whatever t11s one can put for those value. I don't mind drop in my stats. But pitting t10s is worst as it's give replacement value 1/5th. Why i spent 31T in first place if i know it's not top tier. I'd have 1 t11 of 69.9 t if you released earlier i spent alot to reach L1 LCBC. And you messed. Thank you .
 
Hostile said:
My rs got 1Q at 350mcs so they're lowkey just lying lol
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Reading is hard. I said I spent 100t to only move up 15mcs, as my t14s were all turned into t10s. No one lied, both of you just couldnā€™t read.

Considering I started off as 575mcs, got bumped down to 483mcs and somehow received less of a refund than your rs is crazy work. I never asked for the refund and said the shit was stupid to begin with. Womp womp, now I see why you were crying about others pissed about the situation in campus. The fact I am less in stats than you are when I was bigger to begin with is the problem.
 
Ca
iSantaLetsYouJingle said:
My Cash bonus from Ads Went down to 35b
Before it was 100b+
What kind of upgrade is this where Cash bonus gets decreased with upgrading of statsšŸ„²
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So i know why! As cash bonus was decide by how much cash you invested in your dorms like the higher you put money in dorm the higher your cash ad bonus just spen all refund of cash again in your dorm mates and you'll getting the same amount again. Just experienced it in my alt.
 
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