PVP Changes: Misc Rebalance, Matchmaking, and Peace Tags

__--__Grimm__--__ said:
Isn't this Misc cap easy to fill for people with equal build rather than the str or int build or the extra Misc over the str goes to int?
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Misc has always and always will be more beneficial for even builds. But being even built still has significant drawbacks.
 
Shanniepops said:
THANK God! Too much bullying and bs goes on in this game; cutting it back is the best upgrade to date 
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Well bullying takes many forms, like aliens. And you can’t stop aliens, can’t even see them usually. So in short ata can’t stop aliens
 
JudgingYou said:
Caotic said:
Ok so if you don't like the peace tags then don't use them tbh.

I get that PvP is a big part of the game and that it's also an old part of it, but not everyone who plays wants to/are interested in joining the PvP community and that should be okay.

There's a big diversity in the players and this change, as I can see it, corrects some of the unfairness The Power Of The Misc has applied to the game. Those that don't want to engage in PvP now has a way to protect themselves from bullies.

That said, I don't see this killing the PvP function at all. The new misc value only forces those players to up their game bc now farming gets a little harder, and if the peace tags are "too much" then don't ducking use them as PvP friendly.

Sorry, all this whining just got me pissed. ATA are putting so much work and effort into developing this game further and even though they say this is just a trial period I see people get all hatefull in the comments and they don't deserve that.
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You seem to be missing the reason we are pissed entirely. The reason people are ticked about the peace pass is that it IS going to kill PVP when people use these shields one right after another and hide for long periods of time. With these being readily available on the spinner people can buy the deals of the day (specifically the spinner one) or watch a large amount of videos and get a lot of spins and potentially a lot of these passes. I’m cool with the misc rebalancing but this pass is bs.
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I don't think I'm missing the reason they're pissed at all, I think all the fury comes from farmers who can no longer just hit whomever they want however they want and that pisses them off. I also get that there's a lot of hypocrites around who's gonna strip people for money then go hide under a peace tag so they can't get any consequenses but that's what's bs. Not wanting to engage in PvP and having an opportunity to not get blackmailed and harassed by farmers is not.
This is just my opinion and it's totally fine to disagree, I just think you may have misunderstood what I meant.
 
My question is, what happens if you go over the misc cap? Does the extra misc stop counting until you upgrade, or just disappear? Or possibly decrease like tb?
 
Quezalcoatl said:
My question is, what happens if you go over the misc cap? Does the extra misc stop counting until you upgrade, or just disappear? Or possibly decrease like tb?
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Stops counting till you upgrade.
 
JUST REMOVE THE FIGHT BUTTON PLEASE.

YOUR IDEA IS SUCKS TBH, YES IT'S COOL.
BUT YOU DIDNT CONSIDER THE EFFECT OF IT.

THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL BE BORED NOW.
HIGH STATS AND OTHER PEOPLE WILL NOT SPEND CASH TO BUY ECS FOR DNS AND CATS.
BEC. MISC IS NERFED.
THEY WILL LOSE INTEREST TO SELL CATS FOR BENTOS AND TO BUY MISC.

YOUR IDEA WILL MAKE THIS GAME BORING AND BORING.

AS IN BORING.

YOU CAN GIVE THE FVKING PEACE TAG BUT FIXING THE MISC STUFF? OH FVK THATS A BAD IDEA!
 
-_A_-uspicious said:
Caotic said:
Ok so if you don't like the peace tags then don't use them tbh.

I get that PvP is a big part of the game and that it's also an old part of it, but not everyone who plays wants to/are interested in joining the PvP community and that should be okay.

There's a big diversity in the players and this change, as I can see it, corrects some of the unfairness The Power Of The Misc has applied to the game. Those that don't want to engage in PvP now has a way to protect themselves from bullies.

That said, I don't see this killing the PvP function at all. The new misc value only forces those players to up their game bc now farming gets a little harder, and if the peace tags are "too much" then don't ducking use them as PvP friendly.

Sorry, all this whining just got me pissed. ATA are putting so much work and effort into developing this game further and even though they say this is just a trial period I see people get all hatefull in the comments and they don't deserve that.
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OH trust me the peace haters won't be using the item. You've missed a lot of valid and important concerns regarding this peace tag feature.
Pvp players are concerned about how others are going to be exploiting this for themselves to gain a major advantage over others in a sfw. Read back a few pages and you'll begin to understand.
This players crying about their misc bonuses haven't done the Math and most of all aren't anywhere near their caps.
I'm fully behind the misc cap system now that it's killing many exploits.
This new peace tag feature brings exploits of it's own that we are worried about.
So please "ducking" read in future and understand that players aren't whining, they're actually bringing up valid concerns about a feature that they're not going to be using, but how a feature is going to be used against them.
You're the typical kind to come here and say the usual nonsense without reading the thread properly first. 
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I have read the thread properly but I think I've read it from a different perspective than you.
I've been is sfw a bunch of times but I've never consented to it or enjoyed it, and I've never had an opportunity to make it stop. I know this has not only happened to me and that's why I'm sharing my thoughts on the subject.
And I can see some of the valid points being made, but the majority of the feedback has not been from a place of consern but from a hateful and childish perspective that I don't agree with. I appreciate you honestly explaining to me how this affects your gaming experience and why it for some of you will take away from it. But my point is that I get the complaining about one feature that can be used against PvP players, I'm just trying to get across that it's only one where there earlier was zero.
 
KILLERCOLD____ said:
Becoming top VIP without doing what the rest of us spent months and years doing. Thank you ATA it probably won't make a huge devastating difference but the fact you guys acknowledge it-- OGs-- we appreciate it.
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Doesn’t this mean though that you’re basically wasting your misc if you’re more strength build or more intel build? And that balanced builds would benefit the best from misc now?
 
Ulqui said:
Okay so I got my cap but wtf I’ll have to build even stats just to make use of all my mics
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My point exactly. I’m wasting half of my misc in strength and I’m sure people with strength builds are wasting their intel misc.
 
I don't usually post on forum, I didn't even knew about this thread.
A club mate told and I thought it was a joke.
What is wrong with this change?
A: Nobody is going to do events stories once they are capped.
B: Party fairies will simply upgrade faster now (aka pleb easy game)
C: Will force ppl who loved to pvp to uninstall since ATA never did anything for pvp besides some beta war events and that was it.
D: I feel like someone cried too much from being farmed and gave this insanely stupid idea to completely eliminate pvp

PS:Good joke with the shield -rep
 
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