Guide to Dignity

I believe dignity has nothing to do with anything on this misguided post. I've met farmers with dignity, as well as party fairies, it's those who are who they are, but respect others, whatever that means, you don't need to make it a whole thing, there are no requirements to be dignified, to think so, is a bit elitist, or, just stupid, mr "I am going to name everything differently from the rest of the pimd community and should be listened to because I post in forums a lot" 😊👍 no, not calling you out, just keeping to my own sense of dignity, and despite my name, I won't rp with you, for my own dignity... not that I think I have any more, I just don't like haughty over opinionated perverts and wannabe community leaders flexing and telling people what to think about a basic human feeling.
 
My dignity compelled me to asked to be kicked so you could take your frustrations out on me, see? Different definitions. I don't need a tag, I'd rather be responsible for my words. Farm away if you're offended.
 
🤔 yes, I was disgusted enough to bother enough with a forum post as this. You have no respect for people who are just nice, just don't want to rp, just don't want to farm, and just don't want to agree with you. THERE ARE PLENTY OF PEOPLE WITH DIGNITY THAT DON'T AGREE WITH YOU KEFO.
 
I meant to say sensei here, though, very much ironically, Kefo, you haven't been a teacher or worth listening to for awhile. 👀... might be a good idea to stop trying to change the game and learn it yourself at this point. I read but don't talk often, you may want to to try to do the same.
 
@Ecchi
I know where I stand and I half posted this ironically. I'm aware of how judgemental and unpleasant I can be at time but I know that many people agree with these standards as well.

In the second half, I talk about how you really don't need any of that to be dignified. The whole image of Kirk Van Houten being proud to sleep in a racing car after recently getting divorced and being in a rough patch is a great symbol to me. He said "I could never do that while I was married" and is free.
I think that's beautiful. I agree. I've met dignified people of all sorts, and frankly the "not being afraid to RP" one was just a sign of how many people on pimd are stuck up and look down on those who RP. Seeing it as beneath them when it's just a form of expression.

I appreciate your feedback and I've been trying to learn all the changes in the game. There is a lot to catch up with and I keep talking even when I'm behind because I'm just doing me and speaking my truth. And I will acknowledge when I'm not an expert on things.
If people come to me with price checks I'll tell them not to take my word for it after giving my rough opinion.

I don't feel like too much of a bigot but I do try to encourage and discourage certain behaviours in the hopes of improving the game even if it's hypocritical.

I'm not afraid to be a hypocrite.

I appreciate your responses.

Ecchi said:
THERE ARE PLENTY OF PEOPLE WITH DIGNITY THAT DON'T AGREE WITH YOU KEFO.
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You're right and you do the thing I listed as being dignified which is speaking your truth, and you think I'd farm you and that it would cause me discomfort and still posted regardless which is chill.

Really the one thing I crave is more voices and opinions in forums to contend with. Every post I make, I want something like this to come about and I just have to thank you for posting. Feel free to speak up against me more often if you see anything you consider outdated or stupid 😊❤️
 
I appreciate you respecting a differing opinion, but, the spiritt of a "guide for dignity" was very, well, misguided. I have agreed with many of your posts over the years, but making such a guide is, just silly. 👀 Dignity, respect, honor, love, etc, these things are subjective and not to be defined by a single person, these things are not like things you've helped with, dignity is too wide of a subject to try to objectify, it was a bad idea to try.
 
You find it fun to tell people how to think? I find it more fun to hear others, disagreement or not, and weigh the dignity they have, considering their own position, not dictating it.
 
Here is the second half of the thread where I don't arbitrate.

Kefo said:
That is dignity.

Or is it?

Some have differing views on dignity, often defended by a primary trait.

1) Genuineness
Being genuine and playing however you want, not letting others tell you what to do, and acting in accordance with whatever your principles are is dignified.

This perspective is often employed to defend party fairies, people who cry and farm over tutor hires and battle list hits, etc.

Another core alternative trait that can contradict the initial list is

2) Politeness
Polite players who keep to themselves, don't criticize or speak out, never causing any trouble, and accept however people choose to play are often very agreeable. However a lack of rigidity and passion from them can lead to unremarkability, and the appearance of fearfulness.
Many would think that people who are very polite would speak out and be more active if it weren't for fear however aloofness and a wish to simply enjoy pimd and keep it a relaxing game rather than fighting it and other players is also a very common cause.


Dignity is a weird thing.
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I don't know if it can ever be defined conclusively but some things definitely matter for it. In any community, dignity can also be defined as serving that community and acting according to its customs, or having an amount of autonomy (depending on the value such a society puts on individuality).

In conclusion, Kirk Van Houten's two biggest memes provide an interesting and wholesome commentary on dignity.

What does dignity mean to you?
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I offered for you to farm me for my "genuineness", since thats what you think it takes, I have met many who don't want that nonsense, or drama, whom I still think share that geniuiness, and care for others, as well as their own dignity. I simply find your "requirements for dignity" very flawed. If one doesn't tale part in fights regarding pride, they have no dignity? If people don't rp they have no dignity? I can do both of these things and have none, or neither, and have plenty, It's simply very flawed logic.
 
Muschi said:
I felt like he did that tbh.
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If you would , please, highlight where he did that in the original post besides asking what it means to one's self? That is just begging for more attention, the rest of it seems rather authoritative. 😊 And I've known farmers and fairies both with dignity, this whole thing seems like a giant waste of pixels.
 
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