((Opinions)) Homophobia or nah?

[Nathan1637]

If you're of a certain religion and said religion says homosexuality is a sin and you go to hell for it that doesn't make you homophobic. What people fail to realize is that every single is worth just as much as the next and biblically it only takes one to get you to hell. Saying a person rejects a gay person because they believe it's a sin is the same as saying they reject every liar, thief, adulterer, glutton, etc. They're all the same to a Christian. Just because you got angry that your activity is a sin doesn't give you any right to label someone with such a damning label as "homophobic".

Gay people don't agree that choosing who to love is a sin just because it's a same-sex relationship. It's just the opinion of the guy who wrote the Bible.

Christians get all angry being labeled with a "damning label" like homophobic but are perfectly fine with literally damning people their book says should go to hell.

Lol

 

[Oasis]

^ Multiple people wrote the Bible. It's mostly a collection of journal entries by the various apostles. At least educate yourself on the religions you demean so you don't sound as ignorant as you paint those you accuse.

 

[iEx]

It's not the people damning the people. It's god damning the people. I'm not advocating either side but to demonize someone who other than a religious belief would accept you perfectly fine is just stupid. If you didn't know they were a Christian you'd have no qualms. That's the point I was making.

 

[Nathan1637]

It's not the people damning the people. It's god damning the people. I'm not advocating either side but to demonize someone who other than a religious belief would accept you perfectly fine is just stupid. If you didn't know they were a Christian you'd have no qualms. That's the point I was making.

Yet Christians have demonized all sorts of people for centuries. That's not all they do either lol it's a hypocritical religion.

 

[Nathan1637]

^ Multiple people wrote the Bible. It's mostly a collection of journal entries by the various apostles. At least educate yourself on the religions you demean so you don't sound as ignorant as you paint those you accuse.

Uh who are you? I wasn't even talking to you. I'm aware it was written by different people at different periods with different backgrounds and races. I just didn't wanna sound like a snooty know-it-all like you.

 

[Oasis]

Religious views are often used as a scapegoat for prejudice. Is the religious text(s) preaching the prejudice, or are people twisting the holy words to fit their personal agendas? Have you read the Bible, Nate? Are you angry at the religion itself, or the people who claim to act in the name of a higher power?

^ Multiple people wrote the Bible. It's mostly a collection of journal entries by the various apostles. At least educate yourself on the religions you demean so you don't sound as ignorant as you paint those you accuse.

Uh who are you? I wasn't even talking to you. I'm aware it was written by different people at different periods with different backgrounds and races. I just didn't wanna sound like a snooty know-it-all like you.

This is a public forum. I can butt in whenever I please. If you wish to have a private conversation, then take it to PMs.

A snooty know-it-all is better than an igorant buffoon. Besides, you can be factual without being snooty. Perhaps you need to rework your tone instead of alter information.

 

[Nathan1637]

Says you. 

All religion is just made up. It doesn't help anyone but the self-righteous people who thrive from it.

That guy's contradicting statements just prove how confused they are with their own faith.

 

[Oasis]

Says you. 

All religion is just made up. It doesn't help anyone but the self-righteous people who thrive from it.

That guy's contradicting statements just prove how confused they are with their own faith.

You are acting as self-righteous about your lack of religion as those that are self-righteous about their steadfast belief in one.

 

[bugsy]

Please understand that you not minding that they are gay and still enjoying their friendship/them as a person is you accepting them.

My bad, I keep forgetting I'll never win in a conversation against a woman. Y'all are too powerful during conversations. My power level isn't over 9000 when up against the might of strong independent women.

 lmao okay. I at least hope you’ve attempted to understand what I’m saying.

 

[Nathan1637]

Says you. 

All religion is just made up. It doesn't help anyone but the self-righteous people who thrive from it.

That guy's contradicting statements just prove how confused they are with their own faith.

You are acting as self-righteous about your lack of religion as those that are self-righteous about their steadfast belief in one.

Being a díck about it, maybe. Being self-righteous? Nah. Just stating the hard facts.

 

[Oasis]

Being a díck about it, maybe. Being self-righteous? Nah. Just stating the hard facts.

You can state facts without "being a dıck". Like I said, your tone is totally within your control.

 

[Nathan1637]

Being a díck about it, maybe. Being self-righteous? Nah. Just stating the hard facts.

You can state facts without "being a dıck". Like I said, your tone is totally within your control.

Taking your own advice is also within your control. Just sayin

 

[Oasis]

Being a díck about it, maybe. Being self-righteous? Nah. Just stating the hard facts.

You can state facts without "being a dıck". Like I said, your tone is totally within your control.

Taking your own advice is also within your control. Just sayin

That's literally what I have been telling you.

 

[xXNinaXx]

You don't have to accept homosexual people not to be homophobic... this isn't kindergarten where we all have to like each other. That's one of the problems. People want to call each other words to harm their reputation just because they aren't accepted or liked. It's childish. I could understand if he was hateful or fearful towards homosexuality, but that's not the case.

Example, I'm don't like white women. It's never stopped me from doing anything sexual or normal with them though. It doesn't mean I'm racist or have some sort of phobia. It's all about how sensitive the person is.

LOL that ain't a phobia that's racism.
With your logic, white people from the Jim Crow era were not racist because dispite disliking African Americans, they still wanted to f the women ?

No. Racism periodt

ACTUALLY, they wanted to ra pe them. Mine is consensual. It's not racist... learn how to season your damn chicken and maybe more black guys would want you...

Do not confuse my logic with your personal opinion.

I hope you tryna be some troll. Otherwise this is straight up stupidity.

Just cuz you f.ucking a girl is consensual does NOT in any way suggest it ain't racist. At the very least, it is colorism. This is simply because the underlying factor in you not liking these girls is skin color.

Do you need an ABC-123 definition of what racism is? Come on now

Also the last part goes on to suggest this weird inferiority complex you have. You will never know if "black guys would want me" because I dont bring my life into some game. No reason to flex that way ?

 

[iAeri_luv2StripeYourThighs]

Still believe you can't use your religion as an excuse for your intollerance if you question the validity of your god's existence. The fact that the guy in the OP story says "what if god is real" means he doesn't fully believe in his claimed religion, making it absurd for him to think people should confirm to it's rules. That's like saying you don't think ranch dressing tastes good and then saying everyone should only eat ranch dressing....because ranch is the only right one.

 

[Inimical]

Racism to white girls in 2019 is a black man preferring black woman. I predicted it.

 

[Inimical]

 lmao okay. I at least hope you’ve attempted to understand what I’m saying.

I am. It's nice to be able to look at things from a different viewpoint

 

[Agent_Cici]

While it’s great that he says he would love them either way, him believing that a homosexual would be damned to hell is a homophobic sort of idea. Homophobia is not just a simple “scared of the homosexual person”. Phobias are complex. It is a fear of homosexuality in many ways, and he /is/ fearful of it in the way of he is fearful being homosexual will damn someone, or his children in this situation.

People often try to excuse homophobic ideas or behavior by believing it is strictly what they believe a phobia (“the ‘irrational’ and intense fear of” part of phobia) when it is much more than that. It is given the word phobia because a phobia is something unpleasant, unenjoyable, etc., not just an extreme fear.

Him accepting and believing that the God he believes in will damn someone for sexuality, and believing he as a parent had failed, is homophobic. It really comes down to that idea, “failed”. Believing you have /failed/ because your child is gay, a naturally occurring thing, and they are now damned is an extremely harmful idea. Believing it to be a failure on your part shows dislike towards the action and, ultimately, fear.

So, yes, while it is good that he still believes he would love his child, what he said does fall under homophobia.

If I read the original poster correctly, he NEVER said he thought his kids would be damned for their sexuality. He said he’d be worried about it.

And though he didn’t say it, I believe the worry would come from the fact that their child would rather give in to earthly desires than follow God.

That being said, yes, a gay person can be saved. Anyone can be saved by believing in and accepting Jesus as their savior.

Please ask if you have any questions. And no, what OP’s friend said is NOT homophobic. People are WAY too fast to stick “phobic” on anything that is different from their personal beliefs. And that only diminishes the acts and words of those that truly do spread hate.

 

[Oasis]

If I read the original poster correctly, he NEVER said he thought his kids would be damned for their sexuality. He said he’d be worried about it.

And though he didn’t say it, I believe the worry would come from the fact that their child would rather give in to earthly desires than follow God.

That being said, yes, a gay person can be saved. Anyone can be saved by believing in and accepting Jesus as their savior.

Please ask if you have any questions. And no, what OP’s friend said is NOT homophobic. People are WAY too fast to stick “phobic” on anything that is different from their personal beliefs. And that only diminishes the acts and words of those that truly do spread hate.

Why did you bump a 6.5 year old thread

 

[DinosAreTheOldestCars]

If I read the original poster correctly, he NEVER said he thought his kids would be damned for their sexuality. He said he’d be worried about it.

And though he didn’t say it, I believe the worry would come from the fact that their child would rather give in to earthly desires than follow God.

That being said, yes, a gay person can be saved. Anyone can be saved by believing in and accepting Jesus as their savior.

Please ask if you have any questions. And no, what OP’s friend said is NOT homophobic. People are WAY too fast to stick “phobic” on anything that is different from their personal beliefs. And that only diminishes the acts and words of those that truly do spread hate.

Fuck jesus and his egotistical bulshit rules.

Hail satan who accepts all no matter what