((Opinions)) Homophobia or nah?

[bugsy]

You don't have to accept homosexual people not to be homophobic... this isn't kindergarten where we all have to like each other. That's one of the problems. People want to call each other words to harm their reputation just because they aren't accepted or liked. It's childish. I could understand if he was hateful or fearful towards homosexuality, but that's not the case.

Example, I'm don't like white women. It's never stopped me from doing anything sexual or normal with them though. It doesn't mean I'm racist or have some sort of phobia. It's all about how sensitive the person is.

 “i dont like white chicks but I still fùck them!” .. Uh, what? You might not like them romantically but you still like them to an extent. That’s not a good example.

I’ll give an example;

Let’s say someone dislikes blue eyes. They will not interact or be openly kind towards someone if they have blue eyes. They find it difficult to be around people with blue eyes and struggle greatly to talk to them.
That is a phobia. That is aversion and avoidance (key word! avoidance is a MAJOR part of phobia!)

Now let’s switch out those words. Someone dislikes homosexuality. They will not interact or be openly kind towards someone if they are gay. They find it difficult to be around people who are gay and struggle greatly to talk to them. (And in OP’s situation) They would also feel like they failed at being a good friend if someone in their group came out as gay.
Homophobia.

It’s not about being sensitive, it’s about understanding that a phobia isn’t black and white. It’s also about understanding it isn’t about being “liked”. You DONT have to make an attempt to hang out with someone or be fake happy towards someone if you truly believe they are going against your faith or maybe you don’t enjoy that they connect a flamboyant or whatever personality trait to their sexuality because that’s disliking a personality, NOT sexuality, that’s okay. However, when you /dislike/ and/or do not accept that they are gay and that it does make them a failure or mean immediate damnation, THAT is homophobia.

Telling someone or thinking, “I accept that it’s who they are, but I don’t think I’m comfortable putting a part of my faith behind me.” is okay. THAT is respect.

 

[xXNinaXx]

Oh then yea, didnt realize he felt that he "failed" as a parent, in which case is homophobic.

I'm just saying that the spiritual belief that a gay person is going to hell is not necessarily what is making him homophobic, so long as there is still acceptance and no discrimination or aversion towards his son if that makes sense.

 

[xXNinaXx]

You don't have to accept homosexual people not to be homophobic... this isn't kindergarten where we all have to like each other. That's one of the problems. People want to call each other words to harm their reputation just because they aren't accepted or liked. It's childish. I could understand if he was hateful or fearful towards homosexuality, but that's not the case.

Example, I'm don't like white women. It's never stopped me from doing anything sexual or normal with them though. It doesn't mean I'm racist or have some sort of phobia. It's all about how sensitive the person is.

LOL that ain't a phobia that's racism.
With your logic, white people from the Jim Crow era were not racist because dispite disliking African Americans, they still wanted to f the women ?

No. Racism periodt

 

[Nemo]

I'm glad alot of you went into detail about your opinions. It's nice seeing people's different perspectives on this, quite an interesting read for sure.

 

[Cannelle]

You don't have to accept homosexual people not to be homophobic... this isn't kindergarten where we all have to like each other. That's one of the problems. People want to call each other words to harm their reputation just because they aren't accepted or liked. It's childish. I could understand if he was hateful or fearful towards homosexuality, but that's not the case.

Example, I'm don't like white women. It's never stopped me from doing anything sexual or normal with them though. It doesn't mean I'm racist or have some sort of phobia. It's all about how sensitive the person is.

LOL that ain't a phobia that's racism.
With your logic, white people from the Jim Crow era were not racist because dispite disliking African Americans, they still wanted to f the women ?

No. Racism periodt

 

[bugsy]

Oh then yea, didnt realize he felt that he "failed" as a parent, in which case is homophobic.

I'm just saying that the spiritual belief that a gay person is going to hell is not necessarily what is making him homophobic, so long as there is still acceptance and no discrimination or aversion towards his son if that makes sense.

That’s true. While I do believe thinking someone is automatically damned for their sexuality is a bit much and is homophobic for the Bible or church to teach, people believing it and holding it with their faith aren’t entirely bad if they’re not actively supporting and pushing it. i.e. like at a pride festival where a group from a church protests that homosexuality is a sin and that theyre all damned sort of thing.

 

[Zinfandel]

I’d classify that as a form of homophobia tbh. I’m les myself and I actually came out to my grandmother not too long ago. And even though she was completely supportive of me that night, there’s been days since where she has straight out asked me “if all your friends are straight, why’d you turn out gay?” I get that she’s older and doesn’t understand it like our generation, but in my opinion, she could easily just accept it and move on. That personally is a homophobic comment. Whether or not it’s out right “I don’t like gays” or something subtle like your friend saying they’d love their kid but worry about their spiritual well-being, it’s homophobia. There’s nothing accepting about it.

 

[WhoTfIsWesday]

I’d classify that as a form of homophobia tbh. I’m les myself and I actually came out to my grandmother not too long ago. And even though she was completely supportive of me that night, there’s been days since where she has straight out asked me “if all your friends are straight, why’d you turn out gay?” I get that she’s older and doesn’t understand it like our generation, but in my opinion, she could easily just accept it and move on. That personally is a homophobic comment. Whether or not it’s out right “I don’t like gays” or something subtle like your friend saying they’d love their kid but worry about their spiritual well-being, it’s homophobia. There’s nothing accepting about it.

Personally, i think it's something that ppl should just get over. "Microaggressions" are always gonna happen and they're not a big deal in any way.

 

[Inimical]

You don't have to accept homosexual people not to be homophobic... this isn't kindergarten where we all have to like each other. That's one of the problems. People want to call each other words to harm their reputation just because they aren't accepted or liked. It's childish. I could understand if he was hateful or fearful towards homosexuality, but that's not the case.

Example, I'm don't like white women. It's never stopped me from doing anything sexual or normal with them though. It doesn't mean I'm racist or have some sort of phobia. It's all about how sensitive the person is.

LOL that ain't a phobia that's racism.
With your logic, white people from the Jim Crow era were not racist because dispite disliking African Americans, they still wanted to f the women ?

No. Racism periodt

ACTUALLY, they wanted to ra pe them. Mine is consensual. It's not racist... learn how to season your damn chicken and maybe more black guys would want you...

Do not confuse my logic with your personal opinion.

 

[Inimical]

Ok @Warmth let's say I don't accept gay people, but I rob a bank with gay people and we hang out from time to time. Would you call that homophobic? You really don't have to like or accept anyone. Shiiiid, I don't even like myself when I lose in 2K to a trash ass team. The game be fu cking cheating. They know good damn well LeBron ain't hitting all them 3's consecutively.

 

[bugsy]

Ok @Warmth let's say I don't accept gay people, but I rob a bank with gay people and we hang out from time to time. Would you call that homophobic? You really don't have to like or accept anyone. Shiiiid, I don't even like myself when I lose in 2K to a trash ass team. The game be fu cking cheating. They know good damn well LeBron ain't hitting all them 3's consecutively.

Depends on what you’re meaning by accept. Do you mean you’re simply putting up with the fact that they’re gay and dislike it, but try to leave that out of the relationship? Or do you mean that you recognize that they’re gay and don’t care that they’re gay, and hang out with them since it doesn’t make a difference?

Big difference between the two.

It just seems like you’re thinking of “accept” as some huge thing when it doesn’t have to be. “Accept” comes with respect.

 

[Cannelle]

You don't have to accept homosexual people not to be homophobic... this isn't kindergarten where we all have to like each other. That's one of the problems. People want to call each other words to harm their reputation just because they aren't accepted or liked. It's childish. I could understand if he was hateful or fearful towards homosexuality, but that's not the case.

Example, I'm don't like white women. It's never stopped me from doing anything sexual or normal with them though. It doesn't mean I'm racist or have some sort of phobia. It's all about how sensitive the person is.

LOL that ain't a phobia that's racism.
With your logic, white people from the Jim Crow era were not racist because dispite disliking African Americans, they still wanted to f the women ?

No. Racism periodt

ACTUALLY, they wanted to ra pe them. Mine is consensual. It's not racist... learn how to season your damn chicken and maybe more black guys would want you...

Do not confuse my logic with your personal opinion.

It’s still basically the same thing either. And that last little part was unnecessary

 

[Inimical]

Ok @Warmth let's say I don't accept gay people, but I rob a bank with gay people and we hang out from time to time. Would you call that homophobic? You really don't have to like or accept anyone. Shiiiid, I don't even like myself when I lose in 2K to a trash ass team. The game be fu cking cheating. They know good damn well LeBron ain't hitting all them 3's consecutively.

Depends on what you’re meaning by accept. Do you mean you’re simply putting up with the fact that they’re gay and dislike it, but try to leave that out of the relationship? Or do you mean that you recognize that they’re gay and don’t care that they’re gay, and hang out with them since it doesn’t make a difference?

Big difference between the two.

It just seems like you’re thinking of “accept” as some huge thing when it doesn’t have to be. “Accept” comes with respect.

I realize that they're gay, don't care about it as long as they aren't flirting with me or you know... doing anything extra. It doesn't make a difference what a person believes in. What matters is loyalty. If a gay person is a loyal friend, than that's all that matters

 

[Inimical]

Lmao, it's funny. The whole learn to season your chicken part. You know you understood it.

 

[Cannelle]

Lmao, it's funny. The whole learn to season your chicken part. You know you understood it.

“Maybe more black guys would want you” idk what that’s supposed to mean Idk anything about the person you were originally speaking to

 

[bugsy]

Depends on what you’re meaning by accept. Do you mean you’re simply putting up with the fact that they’re gay and dislike it, but try to leave that out of the relationship? Or do you mean that you recognize that they’re gay and don’t care that they’re gay, and hang out with them since it doesn’t make a difference?

Big difference between the two.

It just seems like you’re thinking of “accept” as some huge thing when it doesn’t have to be. “Accept” comes with respect.

I realize that they're gay, don't care about it as long as they aren't flirting with me or you know... doing anything extra. It doesn't make a difference what a person believes in. What matters is loyalty. If a gay person is a loyal friend, than that's all that matters

Please understand that you not minding that they are gay and still enjoying their friendship/them as a person is you accepting them.

 

[iEx]

If you're of a certain religion and said religion says homosexuality is a sin and you go to hell for it that doesn't make you homophobic. What people fail to realize is that every single is worth just as much as the next and biblically it only takes one to get you to hell. Saying a person rejects a gay person because they believe it's a sin is the same as saying they reject every liar, thief, adulterer, glutton, etc. They're all the same to a Christian. Just because you got angry that your activity is a sin doesn't give you any right to label someone with such a damning label as "homophobic".

 

[Inimical]

Lmao, it's funny. The whole learn to season your chicken part. You know you understood it.

“Maybe more black guys would want you” idk what that’s supposed to mean Idk anything about the person you were originally speaking to

Then why did you... oh, I see. This discussion will have to be avoided until another time.

 

[Oasis]

I realize that they're gay, don't care about it as long as they aren't flirting with me or you know... doing anything extra. It doesn't make a difference what a person believes in. What matters is loyalty. If a gay person is a loyal friend, than that's all that matters

Congrats, that's acceptance. Yay for Jacob.

 

[Inimical]

Please understand that you not minding that they are gay and still enjoying their friendship/them as a person is you accepting them.

My bad, I keep forgetting I'll never win in a conversation against a woman. Y'all are too powerful during conversations. My power level isn't over 9000 when up against the might of strong independent women.