Why should members have to be chained to the club? If someone goes to visit and returns it means they are committed to that club. Less rules.
Just give us the loyalty due. Which he didn't. And his own promises he would not leave the club permanently, which he broke to me.
We don't have many rules at my club.. And our members are loyal cuz were relaxed just about fun. Not crazy serious about game.. I think it's wrong to farm someone cuz they don't want to be in your club anymore.. It's aggressive and I'd say bullying. Scaring people into staying in your club.
We only let him back cause he said its okay to farm if he leaves again. Normally we just seek a compromise.
But you have that rule.. In my long experience, if you give them that slight freedom and trust, they will stay loyal to you. And help those that seem loyal. And since u b2b pwars, they're helping the pwar by taking part and letting other club take tax. So with pwars it works both ways.
Because its the second time. And he promised. We want to hold him to his promise but people just love to interfere.
I left VF a few months ago. They had me reset and then leave. People have their opinions. I think forums should be something more than bashing clubs.
If this is true then VF is some fucked up shit man. Getting you to reset if you want to leave? It's kind of like joining an illegal gang in Singapore. You get in and if you ever want to get out, you must be willingly beaten up by the gang members to a pulp before you can be "officially" out of the gang. Scary shit
Farming for leaving is rule that should not exist. One of the most battle happy clubs that I have visited did not even do anything as I was leaving. Any club that farms people that no longer want to be there is not a good one. I think that banishment would he fine; not being allowed back in. But farming and forcing to reset is nowhere near acceptable. I'm surprised the bully who bullies has not stepped in.
Who are you to question how we work? He accepted the terms when he joined, and we told him when he applied. We did not force him to join, and neither did we force him to agree to the terms.
Who am I? who am I? thats a dumb question. I am Dan. And no matter what terms people agree to, if it is a group that seems good now, lame later, person should be able to leave whenever. Farming over a chance in choice is bad ethics. If I had a son who cost me tens of thousands to go to college for two years then decided... " I do not think I'm up for this anymore, I would like to do something else", yeah it would hurt nut choices like that should not result in me punishing him. Same situation should apply to clubs, if you assume someone to always want to stay there then thats wrong. The way I see it, since the guy had already left before you should have expected them to possibly leave. And a consequence of farming is just bad policy, it is cruel and if I cared enough I'd farm bullies amd tyrants in this game. But heck, life is more important.
It's true, they accepted the terms before they joinnon of us can blame them but we may laugh at the person who agreed with the term then wanted to leave
Everyone who has a club has their own opinion of how a club should be run. The point of loyalty is to show respect for the ones that help. Stick by family. Ppl who join know and agree to those rules and the point of farming them if they do.leave is because it costs money to help them grow and they should appreciate instead of using them to grow and leave. Many clubs have that rule "Do Not Use Us To Grow And Leave Or Be Farmed" or something of that nature. I am not taking sides only stating what I know and from what I have read the member obviously understood the rules and accepted them. So y is everyone getting all upset over this when it is ok with the person who was suppose to get farmed in the first place?
Because some people leave clubs because they are genuinely unhappy at the club.. Not cuz of grow and leave. It's why I've never agreed with the rule
Well, you know guys.. I was planning to join VF, but after hearing this, I was, 'Oh God Why, Im lucky I haven't been there.' And broke those term-they-call. But so after long.. No, not now, maybe next time if Im big, bigger by their strict-owner-