UPDATE The Great Dorm Tower Update

JustGoose said:
So lets just talk random numbers here...

They were going to:

- Upgrade everyone to the closest $ value as before. This solution would have suited you, the minority, the ~1bcs players just fine. But what that would have done is FORCED everyone else who plays into higher stats, higher buckets etc.
This was the original plan for ATA, this would have in some instances meant that banked cash would be taken. But people, including those who participated in the beta, kicked off.

So they pivoted, and what they did was, as best as they can, converted people to the closest stat value as they can, and then REFUNDED people the difference to make their own decision to upgrade or not.

The difference in the cost of getting a T14 to 1* is 43T. When you get converted, yes you will go to tier 10 whatever star, but that 43T you have spent will literally be refunded to you. It's not disappearing, the "work/ money" you put into getting your 1* hasn't gone anywhere.. it's literally being refunded.

So yes, I do think you don't understand, because your complaint isn't valid.

While this entire rollout, I have been displeased with personally, this isn't the hill to be dying on.
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How you still not understanding a max t9 is basically equal to a t10 yet is a massive price difference. If the point is to let us chose they should drop it down further so we truly can make that decision on our own and get the full out of the money we spent. right now they are just saying that they are doing this without actually doing it
 
Mikey- said:
It was pretty obvious that a t14 0 star would always get downgraded. It’s a pretty big difference in price. I upgraded them to 1 star so they would not get downgraded.

right now the difference between a t9 3 star and a t10 0 star is pretty small. So this really makes no sense for my t14 1 star to go to t10. If anything it should be reduced further so I can get more money and place a t9 3 star for the same value at way less money.

or it could just be a t11 since I have already put more money into my t14 than a t11 is worth. You’re trying to act like I’m being given a good choice but it’s really like I will be screwed over twice
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This is my exact point. Id sooner have new T9s upgraded over new T10s not upgraded, as it costs significantly less. You can get 2 T9s upgraded for more stats than just having a T10.
I don't even have 55 dorms unlocked, so I'm stuck with 4 random t10s until then.. and even when I reach that, I still can't see myself replacing my 9s for the 10s for a very long time. I guess what I'm saying is, an option to remove for the cash difference wouldn't be the worst idea...
 
My initial thought from this update was this would Balance out the player base from the actual upgrading to the PVP portion. Since then I can 100% see some positives to this update. Smaller players, myself included increased in stats heavily without losing much if not any MCs in the process while the bigger players not so much. This shows that this update is actually making the game show the opposite results. The update is creating a whole new imbalance, this time it is favouring the smaller players unlike the old dorm format favouring bigger players rather than it being equal across the board. I can’t see many differences between this new dorm update and the old one.
 
This was definitely to help smaller players. I went down 100mcs, and after using some of my refund, I was able to go back to where I originally was and then ug 100mcs more. I had to save funds to continue bumping tuts-even tho I used the promo cp to bump a bunch then too. Bigger stats than me will have less funds because they have to bump all their tuts. Ata is trying to bridge the gap and seems really unfair. I don’t see the positives for bigger stats at all.
 
After getting the tower upgrade and rereading the original post I have so many questions that need clarification.


One of my biggest takes away was that the intent of the dorm tower upgrade was to make upgrading tier by tier to be the most optimal way to grow as a player but the math does not make sense when there is minimal to no stat increase from T9 to T10 to T11. When I fully maxed my t10 I only went up 1mcs compared to fully maxing my T9 I grow 2mcs. We're being told while T10/T11 does not give a noticeable increase it will give a boost to plunder (whatever the hell that means). But at the end of the day the math just isn't clicking for me


To fully max a T9 it would cost you roughly 3.9T and give you a stat increase of somewhere around 2mcs

To fully max a T10 would cost roughly 18.2T with a generous increase of 1mcs


If you were to bump a T6L4 to a T9 for 5.6t and add the 3.9T to fully level it for a total of 9.5t would grant you a stat increase of 7mcs


Referring back to the og post

"tl;dr upgrading your Dorm Mates is now the best way to progress. You'll earn more, spend less on future upgrades, and build a stronger Dorm along the way."


The incentive to upgrade the T9L4 to a T10 and then fully max it to T10L4 is that it's more "cost effective"


To exchange a T9L4 to a T11 it would cost you 64.9T


To exchange a T10L4 to T11 it would cost you 44.6T

But the math to get there just proves that the orginal statement is useless

T9L4 ➡️ T10= 27.5T
T10 ➡️T10L4= 18.2T
T10L4 ➡️ T11= 44.6T

If you add all that up then it would cost you 90.3T

You can skip leveling up the T10 and only pay 62.9T (+27.5T you would spend to get to T10 = 90.4T)

My biggest question is what is the incentive (if there is any) to even bother with T10 since most of use larger stats are stuck with them. It would be helpful to get an insight on what the "plunder bonus" (instead of the stat increase) is before everyone wastes the refund trying to do the research for you.

I'm happy the tower rebalancing benefited the smaller stats/ newer players and allow them better footing in the game. But please provide some answers to the larger stat players on how this rebalance will benefit us as well.
 
Give players the ability to reset stats, even once! Thats it, allow us to ug on our own cause your automatic ug is bad. T14 getting to t10 when some players are only 100-200mcs its your fault they had to ug to t14 cause thats cost effective at that time. You have no right to downsize that to t10. Let them decide their stats
 
Mikey- said:
How you still not understanding a max t9 is basically equal to a t10 yet is a massive price difference. If the point is to let us chose they should drop it down further so we truly can make that decision on our own and get the full out of the money we spent. right now they are just saying that they are doing this without actually doing it
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yes we made arrangements for this update as per ur post ATA. now u force everyone to replace roommate to t
 
pearl--genuine said:
For people with T14, we’d like to receive confirmation that our T14s will be converted into the new T11s. We saved up cash to skip t13 for a reason, so that we wouldn’t have to spend n waste cash in evicting/exchanging t13s to t14s.

It would be a huge blow dealt if our t14s were converted into t10s.

Also, everyone is just holding cash and missing out on upgrades/payout while waiting for more news. Without a proper ETA for new dorm update, players are at a standstill with no info on what to do with their money. ATA is just holding up everyone’s game progression at this point.
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I posted this on PAGE 9 of the forum. Way back when. This was a known concern for us players with t14s, and ATA had not addressed this at all until now when it has been implemented to our detriment.

For the past month, we could only blindly plan on what to do with the cash we earned on promos, and could only work with what ata told us, ie. Dormmates will be converted to closest CASH value. Hence we upgraded t14s to 1-star. And now look at the backlash from all unhappy players who spent during promos and realise they have now wasted cash.

To summarise the damage: by replacing our t14s with t10, each t11 dormmate would cost ~100t more.

It costs 62.9t to replace t10 with t11, plus the 31.9t ATA deducted from us for giving us the t10 itself. That means 62.9+31.9=94.8t for a base t11, instead of 69.3t (the cost of a normal t11)

So everyone is paying 25.5t extra just to keep their original stats if they are 980mcs.
 
pearl--genuine said:
I posted this on PAGE 9 of the forum. Way back when. This was a known concern for us players with t14s, and ATA had not addressed this at all until now when it has been implemented to our detriment.

For the past month, we could only blindly plan on what to do with the cash we earned on promos, and could only work with what ata told us, ie. Dormmates will be converted to closest CASH value. Hence we upgraded t14s to 1-star. And now look at the backlash from all unhappy players who spent during promos and realise they have now wasted cash.

To summarise the damage: by replacing our t14s with t10, each t11 dormmate would cost ~100t more.

It costs 62.9t to replace t10 with t11, plus the 31.9t ATA deducted from us for giving us the t10 itself. That means 62.9+31.9=94.8t for a base t11, instead of 69.3t (the cost of a normal t11)

So everyone is paying 25.5t extra just to keep their original stats if they are 980mcs.
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It’s genuinely hard to understand this update from my perspective. While endgame players are stuck waiting for refund everyone else stats are going up like crazy, we losing our tuts and cant do anything about it and have to pay tons extra during promo to actually upgrade after losing our hard earned stats. They blame it on the beta testers for this horrible idea but won’t even give a response to the players who are actually out here spending the most money in the game. What about our feedback? How come this ata member can respond to someone reporting a glitch instead of posting through ticket but ignore us big spenders in forum
 
Honestly, it’s not about whether who spends more or not.

It’s about accountability and responsibility of rolling out the update properly. No justification or reasoning behind why it’s done in batches other than tweaks and all that. The tweaks you’re doing aren’t doing anything so no need for that. Just roll it out. The game is already ruined.
 
Displeasure said:
I still haven’t gotten the update yet. Lower stat players had 2x to 3x boost in stats while the bigger ones don’t really get a boost in stats. You don’t see how unfair it is?

It’s like you get hit with inflation but ATA gave all those lower stats additional cash but not the bigger players cuz

“who cares? They can just spend again and make us rich. Thats why we don’t release much info on the new dorm system until it’s fully rolled out so they can play around and lose money and then end up solo for us to earn good year end bonuses”

Meanwhile the smaller players had money to grow 100mcs+ and also hire other people’s tuts. Goodness gracious
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Gang I was 300mcs before update and now I'm almost 600 same with my rs being almost 700mcs, bigger players didn't get railroaded they just got leveled out 😭 now that you're going to get 800T plus as a refund whereas they only got around 200T you can steal your tuts back
 
Hostile said:
Gang I was 300mcs before update and now I'm almost 600 same with my rs being almost 700mcs, bigger players didn't get railroaded they just got leveled out 😭 now that you're going to get 800T plus as a refund whereas they only got around 200T you can steal your tuts back
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This isn’t accurate because we will lose tons of stats and the refund will not make up for it
 
Displeasure said:
Honestly, it’s not about whether who spends more or not.

It’s about accountability and responsibility of rolling out the update properly. No justification or reasoning behind why it’s done in batches other than tweaks and all that. The tweaks you’re doing aren’t doing anything so no need for that. Just roll it out. The game is already ruined.
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It's not like 200mcs players are hitting 800mcs - 1Bil with the update after. And the reasoning behind them rolling it out without more bug checks is people were SCREAMING that they needed the update RIGHT NOW so ata pushed it out
 
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