UPDATE The Great Dorm Tower Update

Parfait said:
Please give us a reasonable answer to a few questions:

1.) Since cohorts are grouped based on stats, what are the stat ranges for what qualifies to be mid game/late game. Would prefer to get numbers of players who get the update on roll out and the remaining players who still need it for their cohort groups.

2.) Higher end players are losing tutors due to the update and some tuts are forced to not upgrade till their pupils get the update to avoid getting snatched, by the time end game players get their turn - they will be forced to use their cash back in rehiring tutors leaving little for their own upgrade (since some noticed a drop in stats after update). End game players will prolly have to spend more money to do solos afterwards to upgrade. GL yall

3.) People who are 50mcs that have been given the update since last month has since reached at least 150mcs+ and thus earn more $$$/hit, this would not be a problem if roll out was within weeks but if its months then thats money lost by non updated players that i'm assuming you guys will not compensate during the cash backs.
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3.) People who are 50mcs that have been given the update since last month has since reached at least 150mcs+ and thus earn more $$$/hit, this would not be a problem if roll out was within weeks but if its months then thats money lost by non updated players that i'm assuming you guys will not compensate during the cash backs.

This specifically is what i have been asking for now for days. Its unbelievable that they have created this divide themselves and do not have a clear contingency plan in place to help this. Ata must have known that this was inevitable as people were voicing this even before the rollout started. It feels like we have gone to the dentist to have a filling, and instead had all out teeth pulled out. And the generic response is laughable at this point. 🫪
 
its like talking to a dead horse.Ata doesnt care to understand the frustration doing what they do to the loyal players who spent money and time.All they want is for us to shutup and open our wallets.
Maybe their real thinking is that if they give the lesser players the update,that will close the gap or even surpass the higher stat players.Therefore those high stat players will spend more to maintain that larger gap as before.
Dont be fooled,them not answering the questions we need answered is saying a lot in itself.
 
[ATA]Winston said:
Hi everyone,

I hear you, and I get why this has been frustrating. Almost two months is a long time to watch a change roll out gradually, especially if it feels like you're waiting at the back of the line. I wanted to walk through why I did it this way.

When we change something as core as this, we don't flip it on for everyone at once. We roll it out in stages so we can watch real player data along the way and catch anything that needs fixing before it's live for the whole game. It's the safest thing to do. The last thing I want to have to do is roll back the change, so I'm being extra cautious here. I know it's frustrating for you, and it's never fun to wait.

The order of this release was a deliberate choice. I wanted to share my reasoning:

Starting with players who had more room to grow gave us a safer first stage. If something needed tuning, better to catch it there than after our strongest players had already built their strategy (and their dorm mates) around it.

It also meant a large, varied group of players putting the change through its paces, which gives us much better data than a small test group would. That's part of why we've been able to keep tuning the rebalance since the beta test, and made a couple of small adjustments even after it went live; more players testing means more chances to catch something before it becomes a bigger problem.

And on the fairness question specifically: players further along earn significantly more per hit than our new and early players, purely from everything they've already built up. While I understand that gap between players may be a little smaller now, it still won't be erased by rollout order. What rollout order does change is who feels the benefit of this specific update first. On top of my reasoning for safety and larger test groups, I felt it was fairer to give that to players with more ground to make up, instead of giving it to our strongest players, which would have only stretched that gap further.

Where things stand: the earlier stages are fully live now. The remaining groups are still ahead of us, and we're targeting having everyone on the new version before Halloween. We don't have exact dates locked in yet for those next stages, but we'll share them as soon as we do rather than leave you guessing. My current plan is not to split these groups up any further, so I'm hoping for only two more rollouts.

I appreciate you sticking with us through this, and I appreciate the feedback, even the tough parts. It's clear how much this update matters to you, and that's exactly why we're taking our time to get the rollout right instead of rushing it.
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And yet, y'all don't specify the stats for each group. This is getting annoying. Instead of releasing old shards and (un)lucky boxes, y'all could put the effort somewhere else, you know, instead of milking your players. :)
You're saying it will be done until Halloween, but which one? Next year? Do you realise how frustrating is seeing someone who had less than half of my size and all suddenly they grow 3 times bigger than me? After years of grinding? The ATA day carepack should of stayed for the people who didn't had the update, since you guys love « balancing » so much, at least we could have a way of getting the money we're missing in comparison to other players.

Talking to y'all feels the same as talking to a wall at this point. 🤡
 
“players further along earn significantly more per hit than our new and early players”

Yeah, so that’s explains why my 226mcs alt (who only used to be 58mcs), is currently above my 169mcs main on leaderboard even tho we’ve hit the same parties and same amounts. Oh and my main is max plunder, my alt is not, but it’s still 400+ places ahead of me. 🙄

Why don’t you see why we are annoyed? I paid thousands of dollars to get to 169mcs and my alt got it by luck and chance and apparently at YOUR will. Like?? What aren’t you understanding? The paying players feel neglected and backstabbed, and you’re just like “blah blah blah my data wah wah too bad we won’t roll this out unless we feel like it maybe by Halloween maybe not.” 🤧

Give us our rebalance care packs back at 500x for all the months (yes months, this started in July) we went without having this upgrade so we can get our tutors back/volleyed and quit being at a disadvantage for your soon to be upcoming promo. And don’t say there isn’t one cause you always do one during invite hunts. 🫪 This pack best end when I get my upgrade and not a day sooner. 🚮 I’m tired of this, grandpa. Fix it.
 
MrLuke said:
Once again, another cash grab comes as a priority over fixing essential gameplay issues. No update that has yet been issued and another day left in the lurch.

Lucky boxes again? It seems like they only just left the shop? And a theme that would have most certainly suited next month better. I'm making a conscious effort to stop spending money on here for the foreseeable. ATA proving once again, profits above all else.

Beyond disappointing that there is still no update on these issues and im getting sick of thinking that one is coming imminently.
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I’m beyond pissed and will not be spending on this game anymore!! Most likely leaving as i am being stripped of tuts and hit. Over the bs of ohhh you will most likely not see an update till maybe October or maybe after BF. Over it! Spent almost 7 years playing this damn game and this transition is the worst. I also worked my ass off to get where I am now but not so I can see all my hard work go down the drain by lower mcs players now bigger than me with cash. I’m keeping receipts; Yeah I’m super bitter!
 
SpookyKiki said:
It's unfortunate that we keep having to wait for updates and responses from ATA. And with this explanation, we're still left in the dark, again...
At least give us the MCS ranges for each group so people know where they fall...

And as for larger players earning more per hit, that's literally because they've POURED LARGE AMOUNTS OF THEIR HARD EARNED REAL MONEY to get where they are, only to now be losing their friends/tuts to these new people that keep magically growing & have the surplus of money from the update.
The amount of money they make per hit has no real-time correlation to these accounts that have tripled in stats & got hundreds of trillions in refunds that can now SNATCH OUR FRIENDS!!! THIS IS WHAT YOUR COMMUNITY IT UPSET ABOUT!!!

We keep talking about the cash aspect of it because we can't afford to keep our friends hired anymore! We dont care how much we make per hit, we need the money for our tuts!😭😭😭

"We hear you! -but let's keep misinterpreting their complaints for fun"😮‍💨😔💔
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This 💯!!!!!!!!
 
This response is just a bunch of repeated fluff with no real info. I wanna know why people 10mcs under me got their update but I didn’t? Is it because of the dormmates in my tower (9-14 tier)? I’ve been playing for 10 years, and I have seen this game change in so many ways. A change was needed to our dorm towers years ago so I am not upset that a change is being made. The only frustrating thing here, is that you are not giving us any real info. After we’ve spent years, thousands of dollars, and many sleepless nights trying to grow to the stats we are, and you can’t even respect us enough to give us any communication about what we should expect. Give us a thorough timeline, with numbers.


Not to mention, that your bigger players are also usually the ones buying your lucky boxes, or spending money to make it in T100 or higher. You are literally respecting the players who spend the least amount, who play for much less time, more than you are us…
 
NerdyBeautyBabe said:
This response is just a bunch of repeated fluff with no real info. I wanna know why people 10mcs under me got their update but I didn’t? Is it because of the dormmates in my tower (9-14 tier)? I’ve been playing for 10 years, and I have seen this game change in so many ways. A change was needed to our dorm towers years ago so I am not upset that a change is being made. The only frustrating thing here, is that you are not giving us any real info. After we’ve spent years, thousands of dollars, and many sleepless nights trying to grow to the stats we are, and you can’t even respect us enough to give us any communication about what we should expect. Give us a thorough timeline, with numbers.


Not to mention, that your bigger players are also usually the ones buying your lucky boxes, or spending money to make it in T100 or higher. You are literally respecting the players who spend the least amount, who play for much less time, more than you are us…
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Also since I can’t edit, I shouldn’t say the only frustrating thing, because the lack of communication is just the icing on top of the cake 😅
 
I agree, before updates on dorm upgrades came out, I was on tier8, now on 6 and no big change on stats, in fact appears in long run ill never upgrade at this pace. I think upgrading should be less tiers, more stats 🤔.
 
To be slightly clearer:

- I mean Halloween of this year (2026)
- The goal is the next group hopefully by the end of September and the last group hopefully by mid October
- I say hopefully because if I need to make some more tweaks and changes, the timeline shifts (as was the case with the first group that ended up taking about a month)
- I do not plan on sharing stat ranges
- Stronger players will be seeing large influxes of cash when they are updated which can help them either upgrade further, invest in more tutors, or both
 
[ATA]Winston said:
To be slightly clearer:

- I mean Halloween of this year (2026)
- The goal is the next group hopefully by the end of September and the last group hopefully by mid October
- I say hopefully because if I need to make some more tweaks and changes, the timeline shifts (as was the case with the first group that ended up taking about a month)
- I do not plan on sharing stat ranges
- Stronger players will be seeing large influxes of cash when they are updated which can help them either upgrade further, invest in more tutors, or both
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Hopefully.. *cough* we're dealing copium and rainbows here.

Still not answering why my alt who's just alt and empty and no tuts at all bigger than my main and can hit bigger plunder than me. Took me 2-3 years of grinding and ecs party as someone whondont spend that much in game to reach at least 70mcs but my alt that bigger than me now.

I'd like to find RS soon but can't atm because I don't know how big I'll get and what range i can ask around so they will be atleast similar range with me.

Maybe you guys should be treated the way LADS players treating lads now so you listen to your players. No honey no money
Sorry not sorry for bringing up another game to compare to this mess of an update
 
[ATA]Winston said:
To be slightly clearer:

- I mean Halloween of this year (2026)
- The goal is the next group hopefully by the end of September and the last group hopefully by mid October
- I say hopefully because if I need to make some more tweaks and changes, the timeline shifts (as was the case with the first group that ended up taking about a month)
- I do not plan on sharing stat ranges
- Stronger players will be seeing large influxes of cash when they are updated which can help them either upgrade further, invest in more tutors, or both
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Are the changes to rewarded ads permanent post-update? The cash from ads is half what I was getting at half the stats 💔
 
[ATA]Winston said:
To be slightly clearer:

- I mean Halloween of this year (2026)
- The goal is the next group hopefully by the end of September and the last group hopefully by mid October
- I say hopefully because if I need to make some more tweaks and changes, the timeline shifts (as was the case with the first group that ended up taking about a month)
- I do not plan on sharing stat ranges
- Stronger players will be seeing large influxes of cash when they are updated which can help them either upgrade further, invest in more tutors, or both
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Hey Winston,

That still doesn't explain why I, 68mcs~, still have not recieved the update as with some people who are still around 50mcs

If you're so annoyed by getting this question EVERY DAY for the past 2 months or so, then stop ignoring us and either tell us the stat range, approximate stat range, or explain the stat range circumstances that differs people from mid to late. Tell us that you can't give us that, just SOMETHING. But as it's been so long with you blatantly ignoring this question a million times, I know that's not going to change. But we're all extremely annoyed by that blatant ignoring you have been doing regarding this. Tell us that you can't say the range or anything, like we literally just want you to ACKNOWLEDGE it. 😊
 
While I appreciate that we've now been told we won't be told the stat ranges for each group, it should've never taken this long to be given that basic information. That is what gets people so frustrated. We shouldn't have had to ask repeatedly for months to finally get told we just get to keep waiting in the dark.

Will those who have yet to get the update get rebalancing care packs for all promos until they receive the update? If we can even be given that information.
 
Took a whole month to respond to players questions regarding stat ranges, when it could've been clarified ages ago.

We know by now that deadlines are suggestions and not certain so saying it will be “hopefully” next month is not reassuring at all.

“players will be seeing large influxes of cash when they are updated” so like everyone else who got the update or adjusted to give more $$? Also how would u calculate the amount to even refund + $$ needed for rehiring tuts. (watch it be 🎉woo extra 100b cash)
 
[ATA]Winston said:
To be slightly clearer:

- I mean Halloween of this year (2026)
- The goal is the next group hopefully by the end of September and the last group hopefully by mid October
- I say hopefully because if I need to make some more tweaks and changes, the timeline shifts (as was the case with the first group that ended up taking about a month)
- I do not plan on sharing stat ranges
- Stronger players will be seeing large influxes of cash when they are updated which can help them either upgrade further, invest in more tutors, or both
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I appreciate the time and effort into sharing and now we have a ROUGH timeline of when to expect the update. The only other issue I seem to see.. the larger players were always getting more cash and less stat increase.
Does this mean we will receive additional cash on top to cover the current imbalance we are going through? If so, how does this get calculated to the total. Thanks.
 
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