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ATA Greed Sickens Me.

I refused to spend more than a few dollars ever so often on here because I can’t stand gacha games anyway.

Over the years we’ve all seen the blatant cash grabs for low value.
This was one of the ideas you only thought of $$$ and not your player base.
I believe you all knew exactly what you were doing. Knowing people would push back at 7 so make it 3 to be ā€œreasonableā€

People should not have to get multiple Avis they don’t want to get things they do want.
People also should be able to just get the avi they want without chance.

The comment from the team member and the ā€œapology because they had toā€ was atrocious.

It sucks because I haven’t been a fan of most of the shard Avis out (even though you spitting them out or bringing old ones back too frequently).
I liked most of the Avis probably would’ve got 2.
Not now unless someone gifts them. Spending money with the continuous lack of content or ā€œ accessible contentā€ is a no for me.

Implore others if you want change stop spending money!!!
 
So I just talked to 2 people who have this question active and this is so messed up.

The quest itself is fairly simple, collect 1 of each of the new furniture pieces to receive the avatars with ~1y for the quest expiration.

But the drop rates for the special furni boxes are so terrible, Im getting reports that they are 1-2 boxes every 40-50 EC PARTIES. One person said they did 17ec parties with no boxes AFTER yall said you upped the drop rate for them.

And they ONLY drop from ec parties. So not only do we have to spend ec/bentos to collect all the avis, but we have to spend ec/bentos for flashes or premium ran clubs to be able to continue this. With an absoloutly indeterminate timeline, for an indeterminate amount of spending.

So the people who are primarily free to play or prefer p/potd clubs are just left to hang out to dry? Good luck hope the 1y timeline is good enough to finish the quest eventually?

I cant properly express how appaled I am at this.

Nevermind the fact that you have made this furniture account locked so people can't generously gift their friends or try to sell it to recover the costs with bentos.

The furniture boxes are also account locked. Ive heard they become tradable after the quest is completed but I have yet to have someone confirm this for me.

I see now after re-reading the OP its not even the furni boxes themselves that become tradable after the quest completes but rather a box with one random pre-determiened furni item in it. Thats so much worse even.

And then we are left with another indeterminate amount of time on how long they will drop for once that quest is complete along with the question of whether or not they can be traded freely or only to those with the quest active.

The paywall of this is insane. You keep saying youre listening to our feedback and taking it into consideration but thats a blatant lie. The fourms are full of feedback from players on what we want to see in this game, praise on what is good, and in-depth backlash on what is bad.

I personally have been responding to you for YEARS, ATA, along side many others. Theres a good handful of us who are very throughout in the feedback we give. We go in depth with it and give you all the tools possible to do right by your community. And you keep not listening to us and introducing paywalls then say "Hope you like this! Hope you thought it was fun!"

Its not. And its not fun to keep having to have this conversation.

My app is litterally crashing and burning my phone, I have and keep sending you help tickets with screen recordings and have made sure everything on my end is up to date. You cant even keep things running smoothly for your players to engage in this content but you want us to just open our wallets for you all willy nilly? Fix your app, and fix whoever thinks just pushing out content while neglecting the rest is the way to go.

My people have joked that my game is so buggy as retaliation for me coming into fourms and bashing these horrible choices of yours but it ain't stopping me šŸ—£ start genuinely considering your playerbase and not just how to line your pockets.


I mean, as long as people keep desperately trying to get everything right away, regardless of how expensive it is, theyre going to keep doing this. Still feels stupid expensive even after the update to it and them making it a bit "more" accessible.

As far as the feedback, it feels like they take 1 step foward, and 2 backwards. One clear example is when they started with the mini events, they made that chocolate bar event which was horrible drop wise, they got a bunch of negative feedback on it. Later, they make another similar event (the flower one? Cant remember the name exactly) and it was actually pretty good, easily doable and accessible. They got pretty good feedback on that. Then they make the Dino event (which was another similar event) which was ridiculously inaccessible for probably most. So instead of going off of the feedback from the event before that, they regressed. But you also had people claiming that ata wouldnt get a single cent from them on that event (one person in particular said this) and they end up doing t10 lol, so for them, why stop making cash grabs? Just feels like even when they do end up doing something right, they just end up going completely backwards.
 
So I just talked to 2 people who have this question active and this is so messed up.

The quest itself is fairly simple, collect 1 of each of the new furniture pieces to receive the avatars with ~1y for the quest expiration.

But the drop rates for the special furni boxes are so terrible, Im getting reports that they are 1-2 boxes every 40-50 EC PARTIES. One person said they did 17ec parties with no boxes AFTER yall said you upped the drop rate for them.

And they ONLY drop from ec parties. So not only do we have to spend ec/bentos to collect all the avis, but we have to spend ec/bentos for flashes or premium ran clubs to be able to continue this. With an absoloutly indeterminate timeline, for an indeterminate amount of spending.

So the people who are primarily free to play or prefer p/potd clubs are just left to hang out to dry? Good luck hope the 1y timeline is good enough to finish the quest eventually?

I cant properly express how appaled I am at this.

Nevermind the fact that you have made this furniture account locked so people can't generously gift their friends or try to sell it to recover the costs with bentos.

The furniture boxes are also account locked. Ive heard they become tradable after the quest is completed but I have yet to have someone confirm this for me.

I see now after re-reading the OP its not even the furni boxes themselves that become tradable after the quest completes but rather a box with one random pre-determiened furni item in it. Thats so much worse even.

And then we are left with another indeterminate amount of time on how long they will drop for once that quest is complete along with the question of whether or not they can be traded freely or only to those with the quest active.

The paywall of this is insane. You keep saying youre listening to our feedback and taking it into consideration but thats a blatant lie. The fourms are full of feedback from players on what we want to see in this game, praise on what is good, and in-depth backlash on what is bad.

I personally have been responding to you for YEARS, ATA, along side many others. Theres a good handful of us who are very throughout in the feedback we give. We go in depth with it and give you all the tools possible to do right by your community. And you keep not listening to us and introducing paywalls then say "Hope you like this! Hope you thought it was fun!"

Its not. And its not fun to keep having to have this conversation.

My app is litterally crashing and burning my phone, I have and keep sending you help tickets with screen recordings and have made sure everything on my end is up to date. You cant even keep things running smoothly for your players to engage in this content but you want us to just open our wallets for you all willy nilly? Fix your app, and fix whoever thinks just pushing out content while neglecting the rest is the way to go.

My people have joked that my game is so buggy as retaliation for me coming into fourms and bashing these horrible choices of yours but it ain't stopping me šŸ—£ start genuinely considering your playerbase and not just how to line your pockets.

Are we 100% sure they only drop from ec parties? If so, that’s SO MF MEAN. But their exact wording is:
ā€˜Once you've completed the story quest, Waves of Light Furniture Boxes will start dropping in Parties for you!’

Which makes me think that suggests ALL parties, otherwise they would have specified right? They would have worded ā€˜dropping from ec parties’ like in past stuff.

But if it does turn out it’s only ec parties, that’s an absolute joke. So many paid this much to get here and can’t even afford to get the rewards. Sad.
 
The dev apologized, genuine or not, she did. Y'all got the event changed more to your liking from 7 avis to 3 and blame and condemn the big spenders when they ask for refunds and so on without even thinking they support this game to keep running on your behalf as well. What more do you want, to ask compensation for moral damage or something like that? For real, what's wrong with this generation? Some people say that the rewards should be changed to 105/105, others are happy they can get 110/110 avi for 45-50 bentos. That's totally mental complaining about why should you get all the avis when the final reward is something so valuable. For real, fix up šŸ’€
 
She did apologize publicly in a new forum post. I still don’t think it’s genuine but at least it’s a public one.

I’m kind of confused now, she apologized privately, this wasn’t good enough. She apologized publicly to you AND the event has now been reworked, and this still isn’t good enough. What are you expecting from her since what she has done to rectify what she did is not satisfactory ?
 
I’m kind of confused now, she apologized privately, this wasn’t good enough. She apologized publicly to you AND the event has now been reworked, and this still isn’t good enough. What are you expecting from her since what she has done to rectify what she did is not satisfactory ?
I want change to continue to happen. I don’t want it to be a singular event. The way she responded to begin in with shows that they know and have seen we are frustrated with all of the costs but choose to ignore it. Yes she apologized. Yes the event was changed. But I expect them to be more conscientious in the decisions the make in the future; for both the integrity of the game and how they respond to criticism. I don’t want this to just be empty words disguised as an apology to just get everyone off of their back. I want them to want to be a better company for us.
 
I want change to continue to happen. I don’t want it to be a singular event. The way she responded to begin in with shows that they know and have seen we are frustrated with all of the costs but choose to ignore it. Yes she apologized. Yes the event was changed. But I expect them to be more conscientious in the decisions the make in the future; for both the integrity of the game and how they respond to criticism. I don’t want this to just be empty words disguised as an apology to just get everyone off of their back. I want them to want to be a better company for us.


An apology typically has two parts:
  1. Recognizing the damage done.
  2. Taking steps to fix it.
Marceline has done both, she’s apologized privately and publicly, acknowledged what she did, and reworked the event. You don’t have to accept her apology, but by those standards, what she’s done is sufficient.
Expecting the entire game to be permanently reworked as an ongoing conscious decision based on this one situation isn’t something you can control. You couldn’t control what she said, and you can’t control how she apologized. What you can control are your expectations about the current situation.
Given this company’s track record, expecting continuous change from one incident is unrealistic.
I want change to continue to happen. I don’t want it to be a singular event. The way she responded to begin in with shows that they know and have seen we are frustrated with all of the costs but choose to ignore it. Yes she apologized. Yes the event was changed. But I expect them to be more conscientious in the decisions the make in the future; for both the integrity of the game and how they respond to criticism. I don’t want this to just be empty words disguised as an apology to just get everyone off of their back. I want them to want to be a better company for us.
 
An apology typically has two parts:
  1. Recognizing the damage done.
  2. Taking steps to fix it.
Marceline has done both, she’s apologized privately and publicly, acknowledged what she did, and reworked the event. You don’t have to accept her apology, but by those standards, what she’s done is sufficient.
Expecting the entire game to be permanently reworked as an ongoing conscious decision based on this one situation isn’t something you can control. You couldn’t control what she said, and you can’t control how she apologized. What you can control are your expectations about the current situation.
Given this company’s track record, expecting continuous change from one incident is unrealistic.
Reworking the event wasn't even necessary, that only caused more unnecessary discussions and created a bigger issue
 
An apology typically has two parts:
  1. Recognizing the damage done.
  2. Taking steps to fix it.
Marceline has done both, she’s apologized privately and publicly, acknowledged what she did, and reworked the event. You don’t have to accept her apology, but by those standards, what she’s done is sufficient.
Expecting the entire game to be permanently reworked as an ongoing conscious decision based on this one situation isn’t something you can control. You couldn’t control what she said, and you can’t control how she apologized. What you can control are your expectations about the current situation.
Given this company’s track record, expecting continuous change from one incident is unrealistic.
I can expect changes from a company that u support, you said I didn’t have to accept her apology so I’m not lol
 
So I just talked to 2 people who have this question active and this is so messed up.

The quest itself is fairly simple, collect 1 of each of the new furniture pieces to receive the avatars with ~1y for the quest expiration.

But the drop rates for the special furni boxes are so terrible, Im getting reports that they are 1-2 boxes every 40-50 EC PARTIES. One person said they did 17ec parties with no boxes AFTER yall said you upped the drop rate for them.

And they ONLY drop from ec parties. So not only do we have to spend ec/bentos to collect all the avis, but we have to spend ec/bentos for flashes or premium ran clubs to be able to continue this. With an absoloutly indeterminate timeline, for an indeterminate amount of spending.

So the people who are primarily free to play or prefer p/potd clubs are just left to hang out to dry? Good luck hope the 1y timeline is good enough to finish the quest eventually?

I cant properly express how appaled I am at this.

Nevermind the fact that you have made this furniture account locked so people can't generously gift their friends or try to sell it to recover the costs with bentos.

The furniture boxes are also account locked. Ive heard they become tradable after the quest is completed but I have yet to have someone confirm this for me.

I see now after re-reading the OP its not even the furni boxes themselves that become tradable after the quest completes but rather a box with one random pre-determiened furni item in it. Thats so much worse even.

And then we are left with another indeterminate amount of time on how long they will drop for once that quest is complete along with the question of whether or not they can be traded freely or only to those with the quest active.

The paywall of this is insane. You keep saying youre listening to our feedback and taking it into consideration but thats a blatant lie. The fourms are full of feedback from players on what we want to see in this game, praise on what is good, and in-depth backlash on what is bad.

I personally have been responding to you for YEARS, ATA, along side many others. Theres a good handful of us who are very throughout in the feedback we give. We go in depth with it and give you all the tools possible to do right by your community. And you keep not listening to us and introducing paywalls then say "Hope you like this! Hope you thought it was fun!"

Its not. And its not fun to keep having to have this conversation.

My app is litterally crashing and burning my phone, I have and keep sending you help tickets with screen recordings and have made sure everything on my end is up to date. You cant even keep things running smoothly for your players to engage in this content but you want us to just open our wallets for you all willy nilly? Fix your app, and fix whoever thinks just pushing out content while neglecting the rest is the way to go.

My people have joked that my game is so buggy as retaliation for me coming into fourms and bashing these horrible choices of yours but it ain't stopping me šŸ—£ start genuinely considering your playerbase and not just how to line your pockets.
They drop from all parties. Cat, dog, and invs have a chance to drop double boxes.
 
I have yet to see someone report getting them from a p/potd or kini party.
I’m just replying based off of the original post. Why would certain ec parties have a chance of dropping double if regular parties don’t even have a chance?
 
Which part?
All of it.
POTD parties don’t drop any boxes.
ec parties (dogs, cats, and invites ) do drop the boxes. The drops rates are still in hell. I’ve gone through 10+ parties since yesterday unlocking 7/7 Avis and got my first box like 20 mins ago, this box came from a dog party, and this was only 1 box.
 
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