This doesn't belong here on this game. I have suffered myself through depression and being suicidal so I do understand but this does not belong here. It is negative. Negativity doesn't help depression it only makes it worse. Thanks for opening old wounds that didn't need to be opened. If your worried about someone talk to them not forum. Your probably doing more damage with this thread than good tbh. People are aware of it you don't need to flash it in their faces...
Quoted from a splintered mind: what to expect when you call the suicide prevention hotline I generally considered a hotline the last option because there are so many other better, more personable, resources out there, but common consent on Twitter was that these hotlines were terrible things best avoided like the hantavirus. Some people expressed fear that conversations were recorded and traced. Some even claimed that their experience with a hotline was demeaning when they were questioned for demographic information. Could it be true? I found out that many of the fears people have were mislaid, and that a suicide prevention hotline was far more useful than I realized. I had called a hotline before when I explored asking Apple’s Siri to get suicide help and had a very positive experience, so I thought I’d call and ask them to address people’s concerns. Then I called them again a few days later when I was feeling down to see what would happen. Here’s what I learned. If you use Siri you will get the phone number for the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline (1–800–273–8255). This number routs you to a local call center. Since I live in the Salt Lake Valley in Utah, I was directed to a local call center at the University of Utah. The people at the Suicide Prevention Resource Center (SPRC) were friendly, supportive, and eager to help. They don’t believe in a stigma surrounding suicidal ideation and want to make themselves available for anybody who is struggling. Funding has made overnight stays available for people in crisis, with counselors on site to help out. There is even a mobile unit that can travel to you. Funding is also available for longer stays for those who qualify (depending on the severity of your situation). The SPRC doesn’t record conversations, but they do involve the police to trace calls from time to time when the caller is in danger of self-harm. This is not a common occurrence, however. Their policy is to first attempt to get permission from the caller before sending help. As for demographic questionnaires, I was not asked to provide demographic information. From what I have read online, centers like the SPRC need to know who in their community they are serving to help procure funding. If you feel uncomfortable answering personal questions, tell the phone counselor exactly that. It’s your phone call. Lastly, I wanted to see what type of support I would receive if I was depressed. A friendly voice told me their name and asked me how I was doing. I wasn’t pressed for any private, identifying details. The phone counselor simply let me talk. I told her I wasn’t suicidal, but I was depressed and was curious what type of support they offered. I have never needed a hotline because of my excellent support network, so I wasn't sure what to say. However, taking the step to reach out to somebody has always improved my mood, so I told the phone counselor that I felt better and hung up. The SPRC didn’t call back. There was no rescue unit outside my door. I simply had a very nice conversation with a supportive phone counselor who was there to help me if I needed it. If I had been suicidal as I have experienced from time to time in the past, I can imagine that having a sincere person to talk to at four in the morning would be a very valuable asset. My support network isn't nocturnal as I am. Here are some tips to use a suicide prevention hotline as a viable resource next time you struggle with suicidal ideation and urges. Call the suicide prevention hotline before you need it. Not all suicide prevention hotlines are created equal. Do your research. If you are concerned about being traced, call the hotline from a pay phone. Ask them about their policies on recording conversations
Recently Apple has made changes to Siri to address the problem of suicide. Let’s take a look at those changes and see if they will be effective. Using Siri can be fun and even useful, but one of the downsides to Siri is that everything you ask her is sent to a server out across the Internet through the wires, switches, and tubes where your question is parsed by Apple’s servers before an answer is sent back to you. This is a downside because the “conversation” is often a stilted one like those you have on walkie-talkies. You need to keep your query simple so Siri won’t be confused, and you have to wait for her to get back to you. If the internet is down, you’re out of luck. The upside to all of this is that Apple gets to look over the types of questions people are seeking answers for. Apparently, a lot of people are asking Siri for help with suicide. Saying “I want to kill my boss” may not produce a useful reply, but now telling Siri “I want to kill myself”, “I want to commit suicide”, or simply “Suicide Hotline” calls up information for National Suicide Prevention Lifeline. Siri tells you: “If you are thinking about suicide, you may want to speak with someone at the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline. They’re at 1–800–273–8255. Shall I call them for you?” Saying or tapping “yes” calls the number. Saying or tapping “no” causes Siri to search for suicide prevention centers near you. If she can’t find any, she offers to search the web. This is a great way to leverage technology to help those struggling with Depression and Suicidal Ideation—something I’ve personally struggled with, too. Logic always wins out in the end for me, but not everybody is able to reason with themselves when they are in the throes of severe depression. A cry asking Siri for help with suicide can instead bring up the help they truly need. Unfortunately, to get the desired help, one has to ask the magic questions. Telling Siri “I want to die” gets you help, but not “I wish I was dead”, or "I just want to die". Telling Siri “I want to jump off a bridge” points you to the lifeline, but not “I want to jump off a roof” or “I’m gonna jump”. "I want to shoot myself", yes, but "I'm feeling suicidal", no. Even just using “suicide” in a sentence doesn’t necessarily trigger help. I asked Siri “How do I commit suicide with a Reese’s peanutbutter cup?”, and Siri simply wanted to do a web search for me—not that I blamed her for not knowing. Her responses are not a simple keyword response to the sentences with “suicide” or “commit suicide” in them, but are likely keyed to preprogrammed sentences. Researching all these expressions left me feeling a bit queasy. My daughters especially had little patience for this exercise, but I wanted to know what type of questions would spawn the proper responses. Was Apple just anticipating people's needs, or were Apple's servers being bombarded with people asking Siri for help with suicide? Saying "I want to blow my brains out" into my iPhone was strangely unsettling. When Siri was new most of us had fun asking random questions looking for offbeat answers, but as Siri has matured it has become more useful and more sensitive to people's needs. This isn’t as fun, but it is more socially conscious. None of this will be helpful for me because I am thankfully beyond the days of suicidal ideation, and I’m not likely to ask Siri for help on the subject (She’s no Zola on AOL). This is a good thing because I don’t believe Siri has my best interests at heart. Just between you and I, I don't think Siri likes me much. When I told her, “I hate myself,” she glibly replied, “Noted.” Gee… Thanks, Siri.
Your talking about things that don't belong on forums. Like I said in my other comment its negative and has now opened old wounds for myself and I can imagine how many others. Why shove it in peoples faces? You wouldn't like something you were trying to get over shoved in your face? My day was off to a positive start til I read the subject title. Negativity is contagious that's why the world is how it is. If people were positive and had positive things around them they wouldn't feel like crap. Law of attraction. Try it sometime!
That's not the point of this thread, the point of this thread is to raise awareness, to those who don't give a shit/those who are afraid to speak out, not those who have overcome
Its not the point... it doesn't belong here. I haven't just been a victim but am currently a loved one of a few victims. Its not a nice thing to start your day to. Just saying. Like most ppl don't like religion shoved in their face is how I feel about suicide. You may think your helping but your just creating thoughts of negativity with this thread. The idea of this thread is suicide and depression help? Ppl with depression will just see the first 3 words. Then feel even worse about themselves. This stuff does not belong on this game.
I actually smiled when I saw someone actually care for going forward to help others instead of waiting for people who are probably without hope to come to them. I have depression and this thread made my day just a bit better
I hope that wasn't pointed at me fluff? Coz its insensitive to bring up this sort of crap to ppl who are living the nightmare with their loved ones as well as having the problem yourself. I have 2 ppl very close to me struggling and it hurts I can't help. That shit already brings bad thoughts to my head I don't (and sure many others) don't need this shoved at us!
And you think I haven't lost people? I bet I have lost more than you, more than one person ever should, again, you do not understand my point, please calm down
Honestly... I can see just saying this doesn't belong in forums but you really don't need to be cruel.
Hi everyone, While we appreciate the point of this thread, bringing awareness to the issues of depression and suicide, and love that there is some excellent information on experiences with hotlines and good suggestions on courses of action to take, we do understand that this topic can be very delicate. We feel this conversation has run it's full course and should be locked now. If you ever do feel suicidal and need to talk, please contact the National Suicide Prevention hotline or seek support from those important to you.