saying the issues that i face as demisexual person and the issues, let’s say a lesbian person may feel is different is just uneducated. sure, an asexual person is NOT inherently bullied throughout history for their lack of -sexual drive, but did a demisexual person not also struggle with their sexuality? deal with childish bullies? feel isolated? face discrimination? we have SIMILAR issues in the MODERN world. however, like i have continually said - the biggest bullies of ace people are those in the lgbt community who CONTINUALLY act like we don’t belong there as “we don’t struggle the same” - a transman doesn’t struggle the exact same way a bisexual man would? it’s such a ridiculous point to make.
The issues that asexual, aromantic, demisexual, demiromantic, and anyone who has a different sexual capacity face may not be as extreme but are still the same as lgbt+ people, because they are lgbt+ . If someone is open about having a different sexual capacity, therefore having a different sexuality and belonging in lgbt+, they will and do face the same issues as lgbt , whether as extreme or not. I used to not be open about my pansexuality or me being intersex and only told people I was demiromantic. I thought that was okay, that it was normal to need heavy romantic feeling before being invested completely in a person, but having a different sexual capacity is often still shunned because it is not average. It is far different from “normal”. Have your opinion all you want, but do not force it into the community. People with varying sexual capacities will continue to be welcomed.
by your definition, i would qualify as demisexual. i do not identify as it. that passive aggressive behavior is completely uncalled for. you do not know anything about me. you do not know my opinions towards asexual people except for the fact that i do not think they belong in the lgbt community because the lgbt community is for people that face homophobia (and it's more specified biphobia and lesbøphobia) or transphobia (and it's more specified transmisogyny). THAT is what the lgbt community is for. that is why it was created. it was created for political reasons based on those oppressions during the HIV/AIDS crisis. please learn lgbt history. here is an article on the argument about the LGBT community's history and how asexuals were never a part of it until the last few years. it presents both sides and is unbiased but i want to highlight the part where it presents "my side" of the argument. you will get no where trying to present your side of the argument and persuade people to agree with you if you act childishly passive aggressive and embellish things like that. you cannot request it because you are not Kitten. and it is not in your best interest to accuse gay and bi people of being homophobes, especially when you are neither gay nor bi yourself.
actually - miss. ive read one article and im suddenly clued up on asexuals. im biromantic(bisexual) myself. so your point about “you don’t know me so you can’t judge me” is literally invalid as you just made an assumption about MY sexuality? YES, asexuals have just now been added to lgbt but so has MANY other labels, it’s ever-growing as individuals begin to explore their sexuality in a way that has never been done. please read MORE articles before coming for me.
i have read more articles. also you said you were demisexual, so. ??♀️ like i've read a bunch of articles, and i just linked you to one article. your attitude still sucks. also all those labels are not supposed to be added either. the lgbt community was not meant to expand as it is only for people that experience homophobia and transphobia.
you’re asking me to look up lgbt community from 30 years ago, most likely before you were born. the world has moved on, Pride is about celebrating change while still honouring the past and respecting everyone. ive been involved with 10 pride parades now, back when it was still a riot and not a party for young people who bash people who aren’t “the right kind of lgbt.”
the world has moved on from the oppression and history of the lgbt community? that's all i asked you to look up and read about and you're telling me the world moved on from that?
the world HAS moved on. YES - lgbt people are still being harassed BUT not in the same way and not in a way wherein it’s acceptable for you to bring up HIV/AIDS.
The original lgbt and what it consisted of is constantly changing. That is why it is LGBT PLUS. Acknowledge the PLUS. It is there for a reason. Intersex people are part of the plus. Asexual or other capacities are part of the plus. We are not the same community from 50, 30, or even 5 years ago. We will mold and change and accept sexualities as they arise. Deal with it.
it is MUCH easier liking females in 2018 than it was in 2008. it’s much easier finding work, not being constantly harassed, not being overtly sexualised. i assume you are too young to understand, but please - understand that from my viewpoint, someone who has lived through it, the world has changed.
how is that homophobia? i'm sorry i misunderstood something. i'm sorry for assuming you were demisexual homoromantic or whatever terms. this is the attitude i was talking about. you are not going to convince me that asexual people belong in the lgbt community if you keep having an attitude and insulting me. i'm bisexual. i am trying to be as patient and calm as i can. if you cannot control your emotions when engaging in a discussion like this (and i understand it is difficult. i have bipolar disorder), then you shouldn't engage in this conversation and leave it to people that can have a proper debate. i know you want to defend yourself but in the end all you do is start making me and other people on my side believe even more our side of the argument. it's basic psychology. you want the thread to be locked? you can easily 'lock' it yourself by having you stop replying if you do not like reading what is being said. you just stop participating in this thread.
why? the lgbt community still suffers from HIV/AIDS and is still discrimated against for it. we still have the highest rates in the U.S. of being diagnosed with it.
i don’t speak for all asexual people - so putting me in that box and saying “this is why i can’t validate asexuals” is homophobia at its finest. think of it this way. “i don’t like you and you’re pansexual, so i hate pansexuals” — that’s the attitude you, firebends, are portraying. i have EVERY right to be mad. your comments are naive and hurtful to my community and deeply offensive to my sexuality - but i WONT stay silent, as you suggest.
what do you genuinely know about the HIV/AIDS movement? because it is NOT something to just mention lightly. i have lost 4 friends to HIV, so for you to bring it up in a highly illogical and hurtful statement is not okay with me. also, the U.S isn’t where I’m from, so your statistics mean nothing to me.