i feel like the more members you have (especially when they're all doing the same thing, i.e. singing), the more likely there is to be like... seeing your fellow members as competition rather than viewing the entirety as a team. like growing jealous because so-and-so got a really good solo and you've had to sing back-up vocals the past few times, or other things like that. i know image is a really important thing and that the k-pop industry carefully curates how idols act in the public eye (and sometimes what they do in private too, like dating), and that it seems like a lot of the idols get along really well with their groupmates. but i wonder how many of them actually like... vehemently dislike their groupmates and are just really good at acting. i know the same idea occurs a lot in western groups too. such as how there are rumors (or maybe it's a fact; i don't pay too close attention to celebrity gossip) that the other members of one direction didn't really get along with zayn malik.
akb48 is the one with over a 100 members but the same thing applies to morning musume. they make a shit ton of money mass producing idols. It doesn’t matter if they can sing well or not either.
You’re right but whether or not the members get along doesn’t matter to whoever is behind these groups. They’re co-workers, you don’t always get along with your co-workers this is true, but if that is the case. they can always leave and they will get replaced :/ it’s a harsh reality lol
Unrelated, but I remember reading there was a lot of racism towards one of the members who was Irish rather than just regular british in 1D. Same with in kpop sometimes groups will have chinese or indonesian members and those members will usually get targetted by the public or mocked by their other members. Must suck.
This is also true. Twice has a taiwanese member and three other japanese members, the japanese members was mocked for being japanese. if you know a bit of history you’d know that koreans aren’t too fond of the japanese for trying to colonize them during world war 2. (japan was on the side of the germans)
i'm imagining kpop groups singing hymns now as they stand in rows in their sultry outfits and it's making me giggle
i think it's because there are a lot of "good looking" men and they are often discovered in survival shows. sometimes even if the guy has no talent, as long as the fans are crazy abt the guy, yeah.
tbh i don't like choirs either but i feel like that's a different thing than a pop group? i don't like choirs mostly because i don't really like the genres of music they sing.
that’s not really an issue within kpop groups for multiple reasons; number one is that they all go through years of training together before they’re allowed to debut, although some idols have been so talented they’ve debuted with only a few months of training - so they know where their abilities lie. number two, most big companies, specifically the big 3, yg entertainment, sm entertainment and jyp entertainment, have yearly showcases wherein trainees prepare and perform, the executives of their company tracks their growth, i.e if in the first year they were great at everything except dancing, they’d be monitoring that and if there was no improvement; they risk getting dropped from the company. meaning that the members are always pushing themselves and supporting each other. number three, roles are given at debut. you know where you stand, if you aren’t happy, you don’t debut or you work even harder when you can on your ability. take for instance, taehyung from bts, he was an average dancer within the group when it started, no formal training like hoseok or jimin, and he’s now on their dance line(the members known for dancing) because over time his ability grew. number four, members who don’t sing a lot, probably got through into the group for being a visual, they usually get a lot of ‘killing parts,’ which is the more memorable part of the song and help do other things for the group to make them shine. for instance, shinee’s minho became infamous for his athletic side, taking part in numerous sports shows that helped the group become more famous. either way, jealousy exists everywhere, however there’s a fundamental lack of it within the kpop industry and to make accusations that the more members, the more problems is an uneducated view. the boys of seventeen say hi.
replying to the last paragraph because that really ticked me off. i was trying to have a respectful discussion and air my opinions in a non-offensive manner. 1) i pointed out that jealously exists everywhere (i.e., using western groups as an example), but you cut that part out of my post. :•) 2) i wasn't making any accusations. i was just saying that i THOUGHT it could be an issue and that i was worried it would be upsetting to members. i was coming from a place of concern. it's been an issue in western groups, which again i pointed out, so i saying that it could be an issue in k-pop groups too. we later in the conversation brought up bullying issues within groups, both western and k-pop. 3) just because they go through formal training, are professionals, and are assigned specific parts doesn't mean they wouldn't be jealous either. they can be both. jealousy isn't a bad thing to feel, and it's normal, and especially if they go through so much training and emphasis on being professional then there wouldn't be as many of the issues that i was worried about, like those that occur in western groups.