Is it really that big of a deal?

Discussion in 'Other PIMD Discussion' started by NurseBecky, Apr 15, 2020.

  1. You literally talk about leading others down the rational path though. I'm not sure how else you expect that to be read
     
  2. Also. This thread keeps reminding me of this gif.

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    She made life choices that set her down a certain path. Das all.
     
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  3. As in, don’t encourage people to think irrationally? If someone gets upset about something such as a celebrity not being sensitive enough, help them see it’s not a big deal and don’t let it get them down rather than stoke the emotional fire. Like I don’t see how tf that’s distasteful lol but again, you’re entitled to your opinion.
     
  4. Maybe it's a big deal to them. Idrc if you understand why I'm icked out by your thought process
     
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  5. Idrc that you’re icked out by my thought process. It’s on the list of shit that doesn’t matter. Right next to what celebrities say on Twitter.
     
  6. You've already mentioned that several times but keep repeating yourself
     
  7. I don’t see a reason be get childish about it 🤷🏻‍♀️ don’t let my opinion of anything put a damper on your day. We can agree to disagree on this subject and just move on.
     
  8. For something that does not matter, you seem to have written a whole lot about it. So if you can be bothered by strangers' thoughts, why can't these people be bothered by celebrities' actions?

    And I don't think we're in place to dictate what should or should not be a big deal to other people, especially people we don't know.
     
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  9. It was something to start a conversation about, get people talking. And something I have a hard time seeing more than one side of, so why not discuss it. That being said after reading what some people had to say about the other side of things it still makes no sense to me. And I think that’s ok, as some people can’t make sense of my side either.
     
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  10. It is tone deaf to say the least. If only life for most people worked in a way that your pay equalled the work you put in or your value to society as a whole. I consider myself working poor/ blue collar, both of my parents worked 70+ hours a week also. It's hard work too, literally most days the only time you get to sit down is to pee. I have joined one of the millions of newly unemployed during this pandemic. My story is not unique right now. I had to go to work as long as I had customers, so this is the only time that I am grateful to be laid off, because in the end life is more essential than my business. Everyday I am so thankful that I can stay home during this pandemic, it is simply not a choice for many.



    Yes, it is easier for people with means and privilege to stay home. Our first responders, doctors, and nurses are amazing right now, but they also knew what they were signing up for, and I still don't think that they get paid enough. Our grocery clerks, sanitation workers, and many others who are risking their lives right now to keep society functioning are not compensated for what they are going through. The communities that are getting struck the hardest are lower income, not because they are lazy, but because they don't have the means. You can research the effects of food deserts, poor infrastructure, failing healthcare systems, and many other issues that have been going on long before this pandemic that make it so, and are greatly out of an individual's control. This pandemic only puts a magnifying glass on those problems.



    I also do not mean to hate on the rich and well off. I know many of them worked hard to get where they are. Many of them donate and have wonderfully positive impacts on society. But ignoring problems too or downplaying them never fixes anything. Sometimes to understand the darkness you have to step out of the light, right into the dark with them. Even then too, you know that you, as a person with means, have the option to leave if it gets too much, others have no options but to stay.



    Everyone stay safe (as safe as you can) 💕
     
  11. Maybe this is left over from her days doing stand up in the bad parts of town? It's her stash of credit cards and a pack of secret smokes. You know when we ladies go to that part of town, a lot of us stuff those things in our socks or our bra. Some old habits are difficult to break. 😂😂
     
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  12. I don't want to send this thread off topic. So after reading these comments, OP, I think we can't agree that poverty a choice. I think that people who were able to pull themselves by their bootstraps need to look back and pull others up, because for everyone who "made it" there are a bunch of people who tried really hard and didn't. It's a sore spot for many people in the middle class, because they are already just trying to stay afloat. So when a major disaster happens, and they were already at the end of their ropes, it's enough to tip them over. And since we're mostly at home, people are on the internet more, and thus using social media as an outlet. Celebrities are easy targets because they're almost everywhere.
     
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  13. 😂😂😂
     
  14. The education system is ill-equipped due to overprivatization and neglect from the government
    There are creationist schools and a clear gap between private and public-funded education. The American Education system is a joke for a world super power.

    These public improvements are socially funded and actually do require money to implement.

    If you really want a bottom-down improvement to society. From the people. It has to first come from schools which should be supported from above by government, by taxes. And across society.

    That's the value of education.

    Even parents need to be educated to teach this stuff to their kids. It isn't just a "parents ain't right" kind of thing. Yeah because they were kids and are fresh out of school.
     
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  15. What's the Australian education system like? From what I know about the UK and Canada's, it seems decent at least compared to the US's (but I'm sure they have their own problems to deal with).
     
  16. You seem unable to view any problem as being on a social level or a political level. You seem totally ignorant of legal progress or the concept of justice.

    You would nearly be a social darwinist if you didn't also think there was some (unexplainable or improvable) way in which everyone can become stoic, rational, and respect the rich.

    Would a society of superhumans really be better than one in which we try and protect humans from their own savage vices? Probably.

    But both sides have to meet. We need laws, we need protections. We have to respect peoples' feelings and emotionality because these things are themselves socially predetermined.

    Formal education,
    Socioeconomic status,
    Cultural wisdom,
    Healthcare and social support services which relieve undue and (often) truly unavoidable stressors such as that produced by abuse, poor grades, a realistic view of the world.
    Food security,
    Etc.

    All of those things statistically can relieve peoples' stress and make them less neurotic. We haven't all seen all the motivational posters in the world. And even those who have can't always apply them to their lives.

    You can't just bring people up by patronizing them.

    You have to do work, change policy, and change some things about society for them to work.
     
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  17. Public schools often nip at the heels of and can outperform privately funded ones.

    Lots of lower SES schools are still struggling.

    We have some big issues. Not enough male teachers, low confidence in women in teaching STEM subjects, lack of female role models in STEM. I think having pure generalist primary teachers suck and they should co-teach. Have STEM and humanities (generalist) specialist teachers coteaching in primary...

    Idk. there are lots of others. Potential improvements to the system are mostly expensive and we have to find cost-effective solutions
     
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  18. The only thing i can say is poverty is not always a choice otherwise we would all be rich by now. There are some hard workers that could work like 60 hours a week and still struggle to afford themselves due to the world. Also with every rich person, there will also be a poor person due to the balance. If it was a choice then everyone would have high end jobs and be able to properly afford what they need but if it happens it will also cause inflation.

    The other points make sense but poverty is just not always a choice
     
  19. scud
     
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