[Guide] to PvP on PIMD for new/mid players

Hey @Kefo sorry to bug you again but does pvp help or stats or nah? I can't find anything in the op about it and other players i ask don't know
 
crybabyshesays said:
Hey @Kefo sorry to bug you again but does pvp help or stats or nah? I can't find anything in the op about it and other players i ask don't know
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PvP can be more profitable than regular parties, thus using it smartly can help improve your profits and help you upgrade faster which helps your stats.

There are many other potential benefits to pvp including other ways it can make you more powerful, more knowledgeable, confident, formidable, etc. but it's up to how you do it.
 
Kefo said:
PvP can be more profitable than regular parties, thus using it smartly can help improve your profits and help you upgrade faster which helps your stats.

There are many other potential benefits to pvp including other ways it can make you more powerful, more knowledgeable, confident, formidable, etc. but it's up to how you do it.
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I really appreciate you helping me out!! Can you go a little more indepth about that last part though? Wha?t other:ways?
 
crybabyshesays said:
I really appreciate you helping me out!! Can you go a little more indepth about that last part though? Wha?t other:ways?
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I'll say this, the main point of having stats is to strengthen you in pvp.

Parties are mostly unreceptive to your stats changing and the experience of a 100kcs person who only parties is basically identical to someone who's 100mcs.
 
Kefo said:
PvP is short for player versus player and is the basis of PIMD. In 2010, when PIMD was first released, the only way to make money was by hitting other players, and all the game's mechanics are fundamentally based on PvP.

In this guide I’d like to briefly introduce you to:


  1. [*]PvP actions
    [*]how to take lots of money and keep your money safe
    [*]how energy influences your character
    [*]buffs
    [*]the Hidden battle arenas
    [*]the contexts of PvP
    [*]builds
    [*]some brief points on community values surrounding PvP

Battle Actions



In most engagements with other players, you’ll be able to retaliate and win, and the best way to do this is by using the battle actions smartly.

If you view someone’s profile and click the ‘battle’ button https://i.imgur.com/dbGcou8.jpg" style="max-width: 100%;" />

, or click the frowny face in the ‘meet people’ list,

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the battle screen will appear. On this battle screen you have 4 options:

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  • [*]Fight
    [*]Dance Off
    [*]Prank
    [*]Eavesdrop

These options each manipulate up to 4 things: Your energy, your money, your opponent’s energy, and your
opponent’s money.
From here on, I’ll refer to opponents as ‘oppo’.

Fight
Own Energy: Goes down by 9%
(decreased to 5% if the report says you 'crushed them like an insect')
Own Money: Goes up moderately
Oppo Energy: Goes down mildly
Oppo Money: Goes down moderately

Dance off
Own Energy: Goes down by 7%
Own Money: Goes up extremely
Oppo Energy: Goes down minutely
Oppo Money: Goes down mildly

Prank
Own Energy: Goes down 3%
Own Money: No Change
Oppo Energy: Goes down extremely
Oppo Money: No Change

Eavesdrop
Own Energy: Goes down by 2%
Own Money: No change
Oppo Energy: No change
Oppo Money: No change
Special: Gives you TOP SECRET INFORMATION (and your oppo won’t know who ED’d them)

Basic summary of the 4 actions

Fights - take lots of money and a bit of energy, make you quite a bit of money, but also cost you lots of energy.
An all-rounder that drains your opponent's energy and makes you quite a bit of money, while also being the best attack for making your oppo poorer.
Dance offs - take very little money or energy, but make you lots of money while costing you a bit over half the energy you make in a regen.
Dancing is the best way to make you rich. It doesn't hurt your oppo as much as pranks or fights, but improves you more than both.
Pranks - take lots of energy while costing you only a bit, but don’t earn you money or take money from your oppo.
Pranking is the best way to drain your opponent's energy, and it has a very low cost to you.
Eavesdrops - have very little energy cost, and are used for spying, and some other secret uses that I won’t list in here (ask around).

These 4 actions each scale from either your strength or intelligence stats, meaning that your chances of winning against another player depends on the difference between your strength or intelligence stats.

Fights - scale from strength
Dance Offs - scale from intelligence
Pranks - scale from intelligence
Eavesdrops - scale from intelligence

Money



Money Loss
In the previous section in the “oppo – money” section, I mention that some actions take money, however the pool from which the oppo may lose money is their cash ‘on hand’ or ‘out’ or ‘in their purse’ whatever you choose to call it. And the amount that they will lose is proportional to the amount that they have out. So if they have nothing out, they can't lose any money, and if they have like 1b out, you will take much less than if they have 1T out.

Money Maintenance
To keep your money safe, invest in tutors, bank it, or send gifts to people. Just minimize the amount of money that is in your hand; also if you don’t lose a fight, you won’t lose any. So defending battles will keep you safe too.

Energy



Your overall power is influenced by your energy level. When your energy bar is low, you are tired, and when it is empty you are sleeping. While sleeping you cannot attack other players or be attacked, but you wake up slowly and will be tired and vulnerable for a while so in PvP it is always optimal to have your energy full so that you are able to have fast reaction times and do more damage. Having more energy increases your chances of winning a battle, but also increases your payout (plunder) from winning.

Buffs



If the stats displayed on your profile are smaller than those on your oppo's, there are various ways to increase your chances of winning offensive/defensive battles. These buffs increase your chances of winning, but do not influence plunder.

  • [*]Tutors
    [*]Avatars
    [*]Potions
    [*]Relationships
    [*]Relationship dates
    [*]Awards
    [*]Showcase items
    [*]Furniture

Battle Arenas



On PIMD there are hidden arenas for battles that are determined by the game’s mechanics. All players are always in an arena and they cannot ever be left. These arenas are specified to your stats continuously as you upgrade to make sure the game is always fair.
People who are in the same arena as you are between 1/5th and 5x your stats, meaning that you cannot hit anyone larger than 5x your stats, or smaller than 1/5th. If you try to attempt to hit someone out of these bounds, you will get a pop-up saying either 'Defender too Weak' or 'Defender too Strong'.

The lower limit 'DTW' of who you can hit is determined by the dorm mates you can use. The ones with the most uneven stats all have a ratio of 1:6 or 6:1 str:intel, meaning that if someone is less than 1/6th your stats, it will basically be impossible for them to hit you more than half of the time, so this is unfair.

Just for an example, say you’re 70kcs
[stats]10,000/60,000[/stats]

and someone is 1/6th your stats, at about 12kcs.
If they were to build their stats specifically and optimally to beat you, they would max out their strength (your weakest stat). Their stats would thus be
[stats]10,000/1,600[/stats]

In this case they are just barely equal to you, if someone was 11kcs, it would be unfair because they'd have a less than 50% chance of hitting.

On top of this, instead of having that hard-line rule of 6, A.T.A nerfed it and made it 5x, so that weaker players will have more flexibility when choosing builds and don't need to be exactly built to defend themselves against 1 specific build type, like in that example.

The upper limit, ‘DTS’ grants badasses and determined players the ability to hit people much larger than them and get a lot of payout, and also of course, to retaliate if hit.
A player is only DTS, or too large to hit, if they're more than 5x your stats.

Summary -You’re always in an open arena on PIMD. And if someone can hit you, you can hit them. The constraints of the arena are based on your stats so that anyone can always have a reasonable chance at winning.

Contexts of PvP



There are a few different ways to engage in pvp, and multiple motivations that people can have for engaging in PvP.

  • SFW – Strip Farm War. Often involves multiple clubs who hire (strip) tutors from their oppo, and farm them in order to take as much money as possible, and weaken them. Sfw's can last months and years, but are technically much more demanding than all other forms, due to team dynamics, and the full use of the game's mechanics to come out on top.
  • System War – System wars, or Club Wars are friendly wars where no stripping occurs. It's a war to see which side can make the most money. Stripping tutors in system wars is strictly forbidden and heavily punished. System wars are intended to be fun and are held for weddings, funny debates like whether pinapple on pizza is okay, or Sonic versus Knuckles, or if Waluigi deserves his own game. But are mainly used to introduce and teach newer players about PvP on PIMD.
    WhiteElder-Dragon made a guide to System Wars in his guide ‘How to War’
  • SF – 1v1 strip-farming, usually done to settle personal disputes, however this can also be done for plunder
  • Pwar – Short for Plunder war, these are friendly wars that are used as a better alternative to parties for earning money. One side 'buries' their money by hiring tutors, and the other side doesn’t strip any tutors but just hits them continuously for money. The side being hit doesn’t lose anything because their money is buried.
  • BL Hitting – BL hitting is short for Battle List Hitting.
    Done from the meet people list, club member list, or campus chat, it customarily involves hitting people up to 5 times, but moving on to a new target and not starting any fights.
    This is primarily done to make money while energy could be going to waste, or when bored. It is also done to gauge one’s own effectiveness and to know who you can and can’t hit successfully. Done without any malicious intent, it is a way of making money and testing your metal.
    – Note: Some people BL hit up to a full unload though this is uncommon.
  • Love Taps – Much like BL hits, these are affectionately given to friends at surprising moments to show affection

Builds and their uses



Each battle action is influenced by either your strength or intelligence, and your opponent’s corresponding stat.
So someone who has these stats
[stats]500,000/100,000[/stats]

will most likely lose in a dance off or prank to someone who is only
[stats]30,000/110,000[/stats]

because only one stat(intelligence) is involved in the calculation for the outcome.
So if/when you decide whether you like fighting, pranking, dancing, maybe fighting with some pranks sprinkled in, or dancing and fighting, or maybe your favourite avatar has stats that you want to copy, you'll want to build your account based on that. But before selecting any build, I suggest reading Rude's guide to builds. It goes into more depth. Just click
this link.

Community Values on PIMD



Honour.
People who pick on people much smaller than them just because they can are looked down upon. If you think you’re being picked on by someone, who you can’t hit back, for not apparent reason but that they can get away with it, it is perfectly reasonable to ask for help, and people will most likely help you out.

Dignity.
Don't call Open Farm on active players. You can ask friends or others to help you take care of them, but essentially, you should optimally be fighting your own battles. It is customary for people who call open farm in campus to be hit just for that. It shows cowardice, and if an open farm were to ever work, it would be completely overpowered, and wouldn't be fair to the victim.
If you have a problem with what someone has done, you can talk to your friends. It works better.

Common Sense.
Don't strip someone and hit them, that's a declaration of war.
Your plunder from fights doesn’t depend on how much money they have out, so don't be a pancake-head.

Keeping Tutors.
There exists an open tutor market on PIMD, and if you are worried about losing tutors, it is your responsibility to bump yours to their appropriate hire value, or above, if you wish for people not to hire them. Writing a menacing note and threatening to farm, or doing anything but keeping them appropriately priced is silly and can get people farmed.
(If your tutor is worth more than 1b for every 3kcs of their base stats, they're definitely appropriately priced.
Formula:
1/3kcs*1b)

I hope this basic guide to PvP in PIMD has helped you. Stay fantastic.



-Last updated 12/1/18
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Thank you for making this post! Very helpful!
 
Atlas said:
I've personally never heard of there being invalid reasons for sfw, but maybe someone else has. As far as I know the only requirement is that a ceasefire needs to be given. A ceasefire can't be any form of real world currency or items with EC value. Marcie gave an update on this extortion and harassment thread. Sorry if that's not what you were looking for.
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theres one person i know of who hits people who are smaller than them and cant hit back (like me 🥴). they do this to a lot of small accounts and then go to their club members too, most of which cant hit back either. then says if they want ceasefire they need to give 20m misc. i dont care cuz they really only take like 27 mil from me with each hit, its mostly just annoying. im sure its much more stressful for players whose clubs are also being hit, whats a way this would be solved?
 
Stella-Luna said:
theres one person i know of who hits people who are smaller than them and cant hit back (like me 🥴). they do this to a lot of small accounts and then go to their club members too, most of which cant hit back either. then says if they want ceasefire they need to give 20m misc. i dont care cuz they really only take like 27 mil from me with each hit, its mostly just annoying. im sure its much more stressful for players whose clubs are also being hit, whats a way this would be solved?
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My friends and I recently started a pimd Gaming Community called ‘Anemonous’. We have a club as our in-game presence, but the community goes beyond clubs!

Our goal is to build a system in which players who are against the sort of behavior you describe can hang out together, share info and resources, and help each other in whatever way we can/are comfortable with.

People can join as community members or as allies (who are dedicated to confronting this issue head on, even if it means more attention from those who are bullying or farming unethically).

All we ask of anyone who joins the community is that they not engage in unethical/petty use of the PvP system (i.e. Bullying or Farming players for hiring underpriced tutors). Other than that, just be respectful, don’t harass anyone, and don’t be creepy.

We currently have a Discord, and we are building a Reddit community as well.

Anyone who is interested is welcome to join as long as they abide by the community rules!

Feel free to wall and add me for more info!
 
Poseidon777 said:
My friends and I recently started a pimd Gaming Community called ‘Anemonous’. We have a club as our in-game presence, but the community goes beyond clubs!

Our goal is to build a system in which players who are against the sort of behavior you describe can hang out together, share info and resources, and help each other in whatever way we can/are comfortable with.

People can join as community members or as allies (who are dedicated to confronting this issue head on, even if it means more attention from those who are bullying or farming unethically).

All we ask of anyone who joins the community is that they not engage in unethical/petty use of the PvP system (i.e. Bullying or Farming players for hiring underpriced tutors). Other than that, just be respectful, don’t harass anyone, and don’t be creepy.

We currently have a Discord, and we are building a Reddit community as well.

Anyone who is interested is welcome to join as long as they abide by the community rules!

Feel free to wall and add me for more info!
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UPDATE: We’ve Also Created A Forum Thread with More Information!
 
Poseidon777 said:
My friends and I recently started a pimd Gaming Community called ‘Anemonous’. We have a club as our in-game presence, but the community goes beyond clubs!

Our goal is to build a system in which players who are against the sort of behavior you describe can hang out together, share info and resources, and help each other in whatever way we can/are comfortable with.

People can join as community members or as allies (who are dedicated to confronting this issue head on, even if it means more attention from those who are bullying or farming unethically).

All we ask of anyone who joins the community is that they not engage in unethical/petty use of the PvP system (i.e. Bullying or Farming players for hiring underpriced tutors). Other than that, just be respectful, don’t harass anyone, and don’t be creepy.

We currently have a Discord, and we are building a Reddit community as well.

Anyone who is interested is welcome to join as long as they abide by the community rules!

Feel free to wall and add me for more info!
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How to join ur club
 
Poseidon777 said:
My friends and I recently started a pimd Gaming Community called ‘Anemonous’. We have a club as our in-game presence, but the community goes beyond clubs!

Our goal is to build a system in which players who are against the sort of behavior you describe can hang out together, share info and resources, and help each other in whatever way we can/are comfortable with.

People can join as community members or as allies (who are dedicated to confronting this issue head on, even if it means more attention from those who are bullying or farming unethically).

All we ask of anyone who joins the community is that they not engage in unethical/petty use of the PvP system (i.e. Bullying or Farming players for hiring underpriced tutors). Other than that, just be respectful, don’t harass anyone, and don’t be creepy.

We currently have a Discord, and we are building a Reddit community as well.

Anyone who is interested is welcome to join as long as they abide by the community rules!

Feel free to wall and add me for more info!
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I mean the community
 
🎯how to farm?🎯
⚔️get whoever kicked out of club(do not use club's name unless club farm)farm the club if they refuse to kick(if enter sfw club just ignore)
 
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