Dormlympic pins price guide and history.

Discussion in 'Guides' started by Kefo, Nov 12, 2020.

  1. Dormlympics was a hunt released in August of 2016. Based on the Olympics, press here for the announcement thread, this hunt included a unique aspect which set a unique and orgasmic challenge to collectors like myself to track down and find 246 different items!

    Pins, as announced here, were dropping from every party; pro and common, throughout the hunt!, from spinner, from boxes hunt boxes, and from gifts (both cash and ec).
    Essentially, every way the developers could think for us to earn the pins, they stuffed pins into those holes, and we plundered them!

    During the event, some forums and a google sheet were made to help keep track of where everything was dropping. It was clear that some would be rare, and clubs chased down the rarest pins that people claimed not to see much.

    Last year, I went on a crusade to count pins from many showcases and gain a statistically significant sample size to show what they actual rarities ended up becoming.
    I knew that some were incredibly rare and some incredibly common and that I could never put a single price on them all. But understanding the extent of the differences might help with trading.

    The sample size of this data was 173,958 pins across 175 showcases. There is a strong bias towards rare pins in my search as I looked at showcases of people who had very large collections of pins so as to get solid data on the rarest pins. I really wanted to be able to rank them against each other.

    Anyway, here is a graph of all the pins ranked from rarest to most common. In this thread, I will simply be measuring the number of each pin that I counted.

    So
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    There is just a solid flat line and then boom! A handful of pins jump out as the most common and dwarf the other pins. Let's remove those giants and see if we can see something interesting, eh?

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    Yes, we can, and now that we have a more legible and shapely graph; notice the arrows. These are pointing at markers where I intend to mainly differentiate prices. There is a continuum of value and most divisions have to be arbitrary so I tried to look for doublings of abundance and crooks in the line, and then look to the pins close to the boundaries and recall my experiences of trading them, and their buy and sell prices in order to anchor them to the market!

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    From rarest to cheapest!

    **Pins with asterisks are special and will be discussed and priced properly at the end of the thread.**

    Pin counts below 50!

    The creme de la creme of items people completely underappreciate! These pins have been swindled from unaware sellers, with enviable profit margins!

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    1. Denmark 13
    2. Guatemala 14
    3. Virgin Islands 14
    4. Liechtenstein 15
    5. Austria 16
    6. Belgium 16
    7. Czech Republic 17
    8. Equatorial Guinea 18
    9. Sweden 20
    10. Ukraine 20
    11. Estonia 23
    12. Poland 23
    13. South Africa 29
    14. Sudan 41
    15. **Judo 49
    16. Papua New Guinea 49
    17. Somalia 49
    There is a mini crook in the graph after pins below 20. Now these are far rarer than t100 items and based on how far I have looked and just how large pimd is as a game, I would doubt that there are any more than 30 of any of these pins in game, and most of them have been painstakingly collected.
    I can foresee a future where they are sold for 40🍱 each. Stats barely matter when an item is that rare.

    Pin counts 20-50

    I would conservatively say there are less than 100 of each of these pins in the game which makes then basically t100 items or better. They are currently valued poorly at up to 1o each. But I think this should be a minimum sell value. 2o would be reasonable within the current market.

    Pin counts from 50 to 200[​IMG] This is not a very interesting part of the graph but over the course of it, it doubles twice, and I want to suggest arbitrary values for each doubling. And you can fill in the gaps.

    So up to the 100 count, the value goes from 2o to 10c in the current market.

    Egypt 53
    Ireland 53
    Netherlands 54
    American Samoa 54
    Kenya 57
    Jordan 58
    Latvia 58
    Mauritius 58
    **Table Tennis 59
    **Indonesia 59
    Congo 60
    **Mozambique 60
    Togo 60
    Belize 61
    Turkmenistan 61
    Chad 62
    Cambodia 63
    Pakistan 64
    **Badminton 65
    **Marathon Swimming 66
    Kosovo 66
    Georgia 68
    Honduras 68
    Refugee Olympics Athletes 69
    Turkey 70
    **Singapore 71
    Grenada 72
    Argentina 74
    Maldives 74
    Chile 78
    Colombia 78
    Sao Tome & Principe 78
    El Salvador 80
    Bolivia 82
    Malawi 82
    Azerbaijan 85
    Finland 87
    France 87
    Timor-Leste 87
    Myanmar 88
    Former Yoguslav Republic of Macedonia 89
    Guinea 89
    Liberia 89
    Seychelles 89
    Dominica 91
    Marshall Islands 92
    Cape Verde 93
    **Tennis 94
    **Trampoline Gymnastics 94
    **Rhythmic Gymnastics 96
    Benin 96
    Kiribati 96
    Switzerland 96
    Afghanistan 97
    Madagascar 97
    New Zealand 99

    Then, from the #100 pin to #200, they more than half in value again to be 3c each.

    Bermuda 102
    Uzbekistan 102
    Republic Moldova 103
    Norway 105
    Croatia 106
    Dominican Republic 107
    Romania 108
    **Cycling BMX 110
    Bhutan 110
    Central African Republic 110
    Zimbabwe 111
    British Virgin Islands 115
    Bangladesh 116
    **Modern Pentathlon 117
    Spain 117
    Senegal 117
    Uruguay 117
    **Rugby Sevens 118
    Libya 118
    **Archery 123
    Palestine 123
    **Golf 126
    Mongolia 126
    Montenegro 127
    Federated States of Micronesia 128
    **Football 129
    **Nepal 130
    Burkina Faso 131
    **Malaysia 132
    Thailand 133
    Bahamas 134
    Suriname 134
    Antigua and Barbuda 140
    Ghana 141
    Swaziland 145
    Nauru 149
    Tajikistan 150
    Slovakia 151
    **Boxing 152
    Puerto Rico 152
    Iraq 156
    Democratic People's Rep of Korea 158
    Vietnam 161
    Lao People's Democratic Republic 162
    **Diving 164
    Islamic Republic of Iran 165
    Kuwait 166
    **Triathlon 167
    Israel 167
    Qatar 170
    Serbia 171
    Guinea-Bissau 172
    Tuvalu 172
    Monaco 173
    Trinidad and Tobago 173
    Comoros 176
    Andorra 179
    Brunei Darussalam 180
    South Sudan 183
    Palau 185
    Mexico 190
    Rwanda 193
    Italy 195
    Hongkong, China 196
    Niger 196

    Pin counts from 200 to 500

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    The pins between the 200 and 500 go from 3c each, down to 2:1c

    #200 - 3c

    Equestrian 205
    Venezuela 205
    Samoa 209
    **Canoe Sprint 218
    Guyana 222
    **Brazil 224
    Taekwondo 225
    Gabon 228
    **Japan 230
    San Marino 232
    **India 238
    Saudi Arabia 242
    Cuba 242
    Cyprus 255
    Aruba 270
    Malta 279
    Costa Rica 283
    **Water Polo 286
    Solomon Islands 286
    **Philippines 292
    **Fencing 296
    Bosnia & Herzegovina 298

    #300 – 1:1c

    **Synchronized Swimming 302
    **Canada 312
    Nigeria 316
    Ecuador 331
    **Cycling Mountain Bike 341
    Republic of Korea 351
    **Weightlifting 359
    Lithuania 376
    Barbados 396
    Mali 398
    **Beach Volleyball 399

    #400 – 2:1c

    Peru 402
    Portugal 404
    Albania 406
    Chinese Taipei 415
    Saint Vincent and the Grenadines 425
    **Rowing 438
    Sierra Leone 446
    **Great Britain 450
    Syria 453
    Belarus 456
    Cameroon 463
    Democratic Congo 464
    **Cycling Road 469
    Bulgaria 473
    Sri Lanka 479
    Tanzania 485
    **Hockey 490
    Iceland 496

    #500 – 3:1c

    Pins from 500 to 1000

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    In this stage, the value of pins generally drops from 3:1c to 5:1c.

    Ivory Coast 519
    Zambia 522
    Kazakhstan 531
    Saint Kitts and Nevis 537
    Hungary 562
    Guam 590
    Paraguay 640
    Tunisia 659
    Algeria 674
    Nicaragua 696
    Vanuatu 698
    Jamaica 702
    Tonga 708
    Djibouti 717
    Morocco 724
    Greece 727
    Saint Lucia 736
    Armenia 750
    Yemen 754
    Fiji 758
    **Artistic Gymnastics 760
    Ethiopia 763
    Kyrgyzstan 790
    Haiti 795
    Luxembourg 797
    Cook Islands 802
    Namibia 808
    **Athletics 820
    Russian Federation 835
    Uganda 847
    **Canoe Slalom 848
    Eritrea 857
    **Volleyball 859
    Cayman Islands 863
    Lesotho 869
    Slovenia 884
    Botswana 894
    Bahrain 899
    People's Republic of China 899

    Pins over 1000

    In this bracket, pin values drop from 5:1c to 20:1c

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    Pay attention to the numbers of thousands.

    **Australia 1053
    Mauritania 1685
    **Shooting 1713
    **Basketball 1774
    **United States of America 1907
    Germany 3135
    United Arab Emirates 4160
    **Sailing 4244
    **Swimming 4332
    Burundi 5476
    Lebanon 5667
    Oman 8126
    Angola 8219
    ***Wrestling 8233
    **Cycling Track 8392
    Panama 9025
    **Handball 11216
    Gambia ******25061*****

    Gambia was a gift pin on the first day that pins could be gifted, and with a limit of 1000, many players sought to max them! Today, still a remarkable achievement, in the later days, people stopped caring as much about maxing. The toll it took on their thumbs was not worth the gains, and the other gift pins became a bit rarer.

    Thus when pricing them, Gambia (25,061) can be 20:1c.
    Handball (11,216) through to Oman (8,126) can be priced at 10:1c.

    Specials!!!

    The invisible Flag,

    The Mozambiquan flag is invisible and has been invisible since the event. Legendary for being the only tradable invisible item on pimd, this one has historically been easy to convince people to pay a bit extra for. While it is within the t100 range, and the others around there can fetch a bento each at default, this can be brought up to 2 bentos.

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    The misshapen flag

    The Nepalese flag has a unique shape and it looks like devs had a blank flag template that was a white rectangle. As a result of hamfisting the Nepalese flag into that white rectangle, the flag went from this
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    to this
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    Cute!

    The Nepalese flag is sometimes called the most mathematical flag, here is a video that explains why!



    The pin is relatively common still and I don’t think many people ever questioned it so it fetches a standard price for its rarity. 2-3c each.

    But I wanted to share with you, anyway!

    India pin and high population.

    This is a BIG FLAG and it is Indian and PIMD has many Indian players, many quite nationalistic and generous. I have had a lot of fortune trading these. They can go for 1-3 bentos per piece. 1 is safe, 2 is money boom boom, 3 is probably where money boom boom will go in time.

    Just considering the very high demand, and BIGness, this pin is a cool one! (image ahead)

    BIG FLAGS!!

    Big flags are just that, BIG! Even more exciting visually than the sports pins, and even less of them to collect, a collection of big flags exudes BIG dick energy. There is not really a rule with these. All the other factors are ENLARGED in big flags. Is it on the rare end? EVERYONE WANTS IT, MULTIPLY THAT VALUE BY 5 OR 10.
    There aren’t many so here are the values and an image!

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    The rarest BIG FLAG is Indonesia!

    Sports flags!
    Pin collection; lite. No boring flags, fun activities, smaller collection, not so many super rares but some moderately rare pins.

    People who complained about the boring bunny being repeated all over their showcase tend to still tolerate the sports ones for their cool poses and whatnot, also many more people relate to a sport than their country so there’s that. These fetch a bit of a premium. Maybe 1.5x to 2x the cost of surrounding flags.

    Play things by ear with these. There are too many for me to list their adjusted values! The rarest sports flag is Judo!

    Popular pin collection goals:

    All big pins
    All sports pins
    All pins!
    All of my country's piNNNNNnnn!
    I need an Armenian pin to show solidarity with Armenians
    I need a soccer pin because I play and love soccer
    I need a Japanese pin because I have most otaku items and I want to expand my collection with a bit of a tangent.
    I need French flags because I'm totally an edgy existentialist!
    I need an American pin because It's BIG!
    I want a refugee olympians pin to show solidarity with our struggling refugees.❤️
     
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  2. Very researched. I hadn't seen the o.g. threads before, thanks for linking.
     
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  4. So when I recently bought them for 10:1c I caught an awesome deal?? 🥴

    ty for the guide
     
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  5. Absolutely!
     
  6. I can't believe I'm gonna say this but I'm actually impressed that this came from you kefo
    It's interesting and informative and somewhat relevant without crazy nonsensical jokes
    It's still not pretty but I can get over that
    This is probably my favourite guide that you've made, nice work
     
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  7. Fuck that shit thsts way to much effort for 1 hunt 😂
     
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  8. Bumping because kefo put a lot of work into this thread
     
  9. Just saw this now. Thanks for the credits @Kefo. I can't imagine I had the time to actually do all this and research where they came from. OML. The Google sheet is kinda messed up. I'll try to smoothen it out. I still got access. :)
     
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  10. 🇵🇷 ʟғ Pᴜᴇʀᴛᴏ Rɪᴄᴏ Pɪɴ 🇵🇷
     
  11. Figured I'd dump Geass's spreadsheet in here so people can pair the pins to their sources. I intended to do this originally but I felt it made the post too long.

    NAME CODE SOURCE
    Archery Cabana Cool
    Artistic Gymnastics Spinner
    Athletics Fake Art 101 (SPRO)
    Badminton Skyhigh Party
    Basketball Pizza Pop (Art)
    Beach Volleyball Prank Primer
    Boxing Gift Shop
    Canoe Slalom Factory Art (SPRO)
    Canoe Sprint DIY Tattoo
    Cycling BMX Afternoon Delight (PRO)
    Cycling Mountain Bike Art Starzzz (SPRO)
    Cycling Road Spinner
    Cycling Track Cat Cafe
    Diving Noodle Express
    Equestrian Cat Cafe
    Fencing Arcade (Mis)fire
    Football Wait-Listed
    Golf Cosplay Please (PRO)
    Handball Gift Shop
    Hockey Fake Art 101
    Judo Cosplay Please
    Marathon Swimming Arcade (Mis)fire (PRO)
    Modern Pentathlon ENJOI J-POP!
    Rhythmic Gymnast ENJOI J-POP! (PRO)
    Rowing Counter Culture
    Rugby Sevens ENJOI J-POP!
    Sailing Cat Cafe
    Shooting Pizza Pop (Art)
    Swimming Gift Shop
    Synchronized Swimming First World Problems
    Table Tennis Arcade (Mis)fire
    Taekwondo Spinner
    Tennis Fake Art 101 (PRO)
    Trampoline Gymnastics Draw Manga!
    Triathlon Afternoon Delight
    Volleyball Pizza Pop (Art)
    Water Polo Fake Art 101
    Weightlifting Dumpster Dive
    Wrestling Cat Cafe
    Australia AUS No Hand Breaks!, Box
    United States of America USA Afternoon Delight (PRO), Box
    Great Britain GBR Box
    Canada CAN Factory Art
    Philippines PHI First World Problems
    India IND Cabana Cool (PRO)
    Greece GRE Spinner
    Indonesia INA Noodle Express (PRO)
    Malaysia MAS Big In Japan (PRO)
    Japan JPN Gift Shop
    Brazil BRA Spinner
    Singapore SIN Anime Expo
    Afghanistan AFG Hype Machine (PRO)
    South Africa RSA Restless Keg Syndrome
    Albania ALB Dumpster Dive
    Germany GER
    Andorra AND Draw Manga! (PRO)
    Angola ANG Cat Cafe
    Former Yoguslav Republic of Macedonia MKD Factory Art (SPRO)
    Antigua and Barbuda ANT Afternoon Delight
    Saudi Arabia KSA Noodle Express (PRO)
    Algeria ALG Spinner
    Argentina ARG DIY Tattoo (PRO)
    Armenia ARM Factory Art (SPRO)
    Aruba ARU Gift Shop
    Austria AUT Back Alley Debut (PRO)
    Azerbaijan AZE No Hand Breaks! (PRO)
    Bahamas BAH Blue Plate Special
    Bahrain BRN Pizza Pop (Art)
    Bangladesh BAN ENJOI J-POP!
    Barbados BAR Prank Primer
    Belarus BLR Spinner
    Belgium BEL Skyhigh Party (PRO)
    Belize BIZ Art Starzzz (PRO)
    Benin BEN Cabana Cool (PRO)
    Bermuda BER No Hand Breaks! (PRO)
    Bolivia BOL Big In Japan
    Bosnia & Herzegovina BIH First World Problems
    Botswana BOT Fake Art 101 (SPRO)
    Brunei Darussalam BRU Pizza Pop (Art)
    Bulgaria BUL Fake Art 101
    Burkina Faso BUR IT'S BROSTEP, BRAH!
    Burundi BDI Gift Shop
    Bhutan BHU Frisbee Follies
    Cape Verde CPV Fake Art 101 (PRO)
    Cameroon CMR Counter Culture (PRO)
    Cambodia CAM Hype Machine
    Qatar QAT Noodle Express
    Kazakhstan KAZ Box
    Chad CHA Dumpster Dive (PRO)
    Chile CHI Anime Expo (PRO)
    Cyprus CYP Noodle Express (PRO)
    Colombia COL Counter Culture (PRO)
    Comoros COM Fitspiration
    Congo CGO Art Starzzz (PRO)
    Ivory Coast CIV Gift Shop
    Costa Rica CRC Factory Art
    Croatia CRO Afternoon Delight
    Cuba CUB Back Alley Debut
    Denmark DEN Blue Plate Special (PRO)
    Djibouti DJI Spinner
    Dominica DMA Just Dance! (PRO)
    Egypt EGY Wait-Listed (PRO)
    El Salvador ESA Arcade (Mis)fire (PRO)
    United Arab Emirates UAE Cat Cafe
    Ecuador ECU Hype Machine
    Eritrea ERI Cat Cafe
    Slovakia SVK Blue Plate Special
    Slovenia SLO Box
    Spain ESP Cabana Cool
    Federated States of Micronesia FSM IT'S BROSTEP, BRAH!
    Estonia EST Anime Expo (PRO)
    Ethiopia ETH Art Starzzz (SPRO)
    Russian Federation RUS Box
    Fiji FIJ Spinner
    Finland FIN DIY Tattoo (PRO)
    France FRA ENJOI J-POP! (PRO)
    Gabon GAB Art Starzzz
    Gambia GAM Box
    Ghana GHA Noodle Express
    Georgia GEO Back Alley Debut (PRO)
    Grenada GRN Dumpster Dive (PRO)
    Guam GUM Spinner
    Guatemala GUA Factory Art (PRO)
    Guyana GUY Back Alley Debut
    Guinea GUI Big In Japan
    Guinea-Bissau GBS Restless Keg Syndrome
    Equatorial Guinea GEQ Wait-Listed (PRO)
    Haiti HAI Box
    Honduras HON ENJOI J-POP! (PRO)
    Hongkong, China HKG Counter Culture
    Hungary HUN Skyhigh Party, Box
    Yemen YEM Spinner
    Cayman Islands CAY Box
    Cook Islands COK Factory Art (SPRO)
    Marshall Islands MHL Factory Art (PRO)
    Solomon Islands SOL Gift Shop
    Virgin Islands ISV First World Problems (PRO)
    British Virgin Islands IVB IT'S BROSTEP, BRAH!
    Iraq IRQ DIY Tattoo (SPRO)
    Ireland IRL No Hand Breaks! (PRO)
    Iceland ISL Box
    Israel ISR Anime Expo (PRO)
    Italy ITA Back Alley Debut
    Jamaica JAM Spinner
    Jordan JOR Art Starzzz
    Kiribati KIR Wait-Listed (PRO)
    Kosovo KOS Cosplay Please (PRO)
    Kuwait KUW Hype Machine
    Lesotho LES Fake Art 101 (SPRO)
    Latvia LAT Factory Art (PRO)
    Lebanon LIB Gift Shop
    Liberia LBR DIY Tattoo (SPRO)
    Libya LBA Limo Luxury
    Liechtenstein LIE Cosplay Please (PRO)
    Lithuania LTU Prank Primer
    Luxembourg LUX Box
    Madagascar MAD Fitspiration
    Malawi MAW Fake Art 101 (PRO)
    Maldives MDV Counter Culture (PRO)
    Mali MLI Art Starzzz
    Malta MLT Anime Expo
    Morocco MAR Spinner
    Mauritius MRI Blue Plate Special (PRO)
    Mauritania MTN Pizza Pop (Art)
    Mexico MEX
    Mozambique MOZ Just Dance! (PRO)
    Monaco MON Restless Keg Syndrome
    Mongolia MGL Cosplay Please
    Montenegro MNE Limo Luxury
    Myanmar MYA Art Starzzz (SPRO)
    Namibia NAM Box
    Nauru NRU Big In Japan
    Nepal NEP Blue Plate Special
    Nicaragua NCA Spinner
    Niger NIG Wait-Listed
    Nigeria NGR Art Starzzz (SPRO)
    Norway NOR Limo Luxury (PRO)
    New Zealand NZL All Roads Lead To Beer
    Oman OMA Cat Cafe
    Netherlands NED Limo Luxury (PRO)
    Palau PLW All Roads Lead To Beer
    Palestine PLE Limo Luxury
    Panama PAN Gift Shop
    Papua New Guinea PNG Arcade (Mis)fire (PRO)
    Pakistan PAK Skyhigh Party (PRO)
    Paraguay PAR Art Starzzz (SPRO)
    Peru PER Free from ATA (Upon App Restart)
    Poland POL Just Dance! (PRO)
    Puerto Rico PUR Hype Machine (PRO)
    Portugal POR DIY Tattoo
    Kenya KEN Hype Machine (PRO)
    Kyrgyzstan KGZ Box
    Central African Republic CAF Skyhigh Party (PRO)
    Republic of Korea KOR Dumpster Dive
    Republic of Moldova MDA Frisbee Follies
    Democratic Rep of the Congo COD Spinner
    Dominican Republic DOM Big In Japan (PRO)
    Islamic Republic of Iran IRI DIY Tattoo (SPRO)
    People's Republic of China CHN DIY Tattoo (SPRO), Box
    Democratic People's Rep of Korea PRK Anime Expo
    Lao People's Democratic Republic LAO Fitspiration
    Czech Republic CZE Afternoon Delight (PRO)
    Romania ROU Just Dance!
    Rwanda RWA No Hand Breaks!
    Samoa SAM Gift Shop
    American Samoa ASA First World Problems (PRO)
    San Marino SMR Counter Culture
    Saint Lucia LCA Factory Art (SPRO)
    Saint Kitts and Nevis SKN Factory Art
    Sao Tome & Principe STP DIY Tattoo (PRO)
    Saint Vincent and the Grenadines VIN Fake Art 101 (SPRO)
    Senegal SEN Just Dance!
    Sierra Leone SLE Spinner
    Serbia SRB DIY Tattoo (SPRO)
    Seychelles SEY Counter Culture (PRO)
    Syria SYR DIY Tattoo
    Somalia SOM First World Problems (PRO)
    Sri Lanka SRI Box
    Swaziland SWZ Draw Manga
    Sudan SUD Art Starzzz (PRO)
    South Sudan SSD Frisbee Follies
    Sweden SWE Big In Japan (PRO)
    Switzerland SUI Draw Manga (PRO)
    Suriname SUR Just Dance!
    Thailand THA Cosplay Please
    Chinese Taipei TPE Spinner
    Tajikistan TJK Draw Manga
    Tanzania TAN Fake Art 101
    Timor-Leste TLS All Roads Lead To Beer
    Togo TOG Dumpster Dive (PRO)
    Tonga TGA Spinner
    Trinidad and Tobago TTO Wait-Listed
    Tunisia TUN Art Starzzz (SPRO)
    Turkmenistan TKM Draw Manga (PRO)
    Turkey TUR Back Alley Debut (PRO)
    Tuvalu TUV No Hand Breaks!
    Ukraine UKR Limo Luxury (PRO)
    Uganda UGA Box
    Uruguay URU Back Alley Debut (PRO)
    Uzbekistan UZB Cabana Cool (PRO)
    Vanuatu VAN Spinner
    Venezuela VEN Cabana Cool
    Vietnam VIE Arcade (Mis)fire
    Zambia ZAM Box
    Zimbabwe ZIM Skyhigh Party
    Refugee Olympics Athletes ROA Blue Plate Special (PRO)


    Mexico and Germany are not ascribed sources but if I recall correctly:
    Germany was from Cat Cafe
    and Mexico was an ec gift (it has an ec value).

    a far-shot recollection