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Anna, I completely agree with your post about taking a stance in a debate. I'm completely lost about what this thread is about though, but I will say that if someone tells me to go to them as the only source of information and disregard all other sources of information...I would be quite suspicious that what they are telling me isn't true. I'm a information junkie though, so take that as you wish.
Hrvatica, loved your rant. The only thing I can really say though that I actually hate is when girls wear something attractive and revealing and expect not to get hit on and yell at people for looking at them. No one deserves to get raped or sexually assaulted in any fashion, how people can believe someone is asking to get raped is ridiculous.
I completely agree Cherry. I think some women especially young ladies are taking this thing too far. They want guys to love them, but when they are called out for their poor choice of dress they scream bloody murder and claim their bodies are being objectified and shouldn't be looked upon in that manner. YES men shouldn't lust after women, BUT don't go forth tempting them with your body. If you love yourself you should know that you're hot stuff and don't need to put all on display anyways.
tempting men? Just because you dress in a certain way, it does not mean you have self respect. You could be all 'covered up' and have no 'self respect' and act 'promiscuously.' Clothes shouldn't determine whether you do or do not have self respect. I don't want to jump down your throat so, what do you mean by tempting?
Lol, agreed with cherry tho. Those girls down right annoy and piss me off. Especially when they make a whole big scene about it. Calm your ass, and rationally tell the guy you are not interested and move along.
By being half naked. I mean how many people aren't aroused by scantily dressed people. I like shirtless guys, that's why whenever my guy friends comeove and one of them is shirtless I make him put a shirt on because either he looks reeeeeeally good or reaaaaaaallly bad. And yes someone can be dressed well and still be a dog or promiscuous but we as people go off on impressions first of all. We all know first impressions are everything. The way you carry yourself is how you are received to quote Dave Chappell: I could wear a cop uniform and not be a cop that's fair. But it's still hella confusing. So if you choose to wear the uniform of a typical porn star expect people to assume you may be one. But no one deserves to be raped regardless of there what they do in public, in private, or on tape.
Of course seeing a beautiful specimen half naked will entice any or most living humans with a sex drive. But, that also does not give us a right to make that person uncomfortable in their own body. Appreciate that body but know your boundaries. I think you asking your friend to put on a shirt says more about you and your behaviour than it does about your friend. I'm not saying you are, but as an outside observer it seems like you have no self control and you're making them get fully clothed, because YOU are uncomfortable. That's just wrong. It's like saying someone isn't allowed to have an opinion because you aren't comfortable with their opinion. (For example someone saying that god isn't real and religion is made up, may make some people feel uncomfortable.) But isn't there a saying, 'don't judge a book by it's cover.' It's just like thinking cause someone looks a little bit bigger, you think it's ok to ask them if they're pregnant. It's not right. I think some people think I dress 'promiscuously,' but I do so because I can. I have the right to do so. Just like someone has the right to dye their hair blue, even though society probably wouldn't approve. Or if someone has tattoos or piercings, a lot of people in society might find that disgusting. But, it's not their choice and it's their body. I dress in that way because I've worked on my body for a couple of years to get it to that point. And it's also taken many years for me to appreciate my body. I don't dress to impress anyone but I dress for myself. If that makes you uncomfortable, then deal with it. I mean who said it was 'disgusting' or 'wrong' to dress that way. Society? I mean how is it harming you if someone dresses provocatively?
Anna: About talking about our opinions, I completely think that should be a thing And to clarify about Macklemore, even though he says he's an ally, he actually doesn't have a lot of support from the LGBTQIA community. A lot of people think the song "Same Love" borders on homophobia. ? To basically everyone: I'm so sorry my post was confusing ._. I'm one of those people that just kinda says a bunch of things at once and they kinda seem like they're related but they're not...so again, very sorry.
Kinda adding on-ish to hrvetica: I hate that women cross dressing is more acceptable in society than a man cross dressing. In my opinion people can wear whatever they want, but I don't understand why when I wear men's clothing people I get less looks than when my friend dresses in drag and he gets plenty of dirty looks. The majority from men. It just baffles me. (I totally used wrong pronouns but only so that this would be easier to follow)
Fair points. I retract my original statement. People can dress how they wish too, because as you've stated, they have the right to do so. Plus you're right it doesn't harm me I will respect you and other people and their way of dress. I for one do show quite a but of skin which my mother hates but I think I'm still fairly modest. I think everyone deserves to be able to express themselves and love themselves the way they want to. But there is a time an place for everything, and in some settings certain dress is inappropriate regardless of expression or self love. Therefore one should respect that environment and dress accordingly. What you do elsewhere is your choice. On that note I go back to my statement about making my guy friends putting on a shirt if they come over shirtless. It's not really a lack of control, that's just how I was raised. I have a disdain for someone entering another person's home not properly clothed. I can see how that can come across as if I'm oppressing another person. But these are my friends at my house. No one is offended if I suggest they put a shirt on. Sometimes I don't even have a shirt for them to wear and it's no problem if they lounge there on my couch leaving a mess everywhere shirtless. They're my friends. But it's more of a respect thing. They're in my house, respect my space and dress properly.
Sasha, I 95% agree. The reason I think society believes it is ok for a woman to dress herself in a man's clothing is because, there isn't much of a 'difference.' Unless you've decided to grow a beard, hide your boobs and dress and act like a total boy then, it's not really considered cross dressing. From a fashion point of view, 'men's' clothing is really in for women. If you think about the baseball and basketball jerseys that are in. Baseball caps are in. The whole checkered shirts tied around your waist or worn. Plus the oversized clothing, it's all based of men's fashion. Usual male garments don't include dresses, skirts or tube tops. Whereas, all men's fashion such as shirts, pants, trackies (sports clothing) are all a part of a usual woman's closet. I live in Sydney, we have a lot of cross dressers and transsexual's. So, I think in my society cross dressers are all accepted. They walk freely around the streets and usually no one will bat an eye. I think people judge your friends more, because of the society you're living in.It's probably not something that they're used to. Which, it doesn't make it acceptable but, if more people take a stand then hopefully society will become more open minded.
Dress how u want, personal expression just not naked by the pool side where little kids run about ?