Tl;Dr.
Update is 90% good.
Plz don't use "stats" improperly.
"Tradecase/TC" would be a better name for that showcase tab.
Let the improper use of "stats" die the death it deserves.
Ay yo, it's your local showcase/trading hipster with a long ass hot take about the new update.
Favourites/Starred items?
/10
Search Feature?/10
Visible furni? Yahhhhhh.../10
This will help to declutter the torrential spam of furniture advertising that has been going on for the past few years.
People will trade furni more often and get a better idea of the availability of furniture thanks to the added transparency.
Overall there are no negatives to a furniture tab unless ur a tradephobe.
Those were the biggest new features but we also have separate tabs for different types of items, as well as different ways to sort them all.
Let's go through some:
Tabs:
Gifts tab (Yah, sure.)
Stats tab (
!
?
!
?
!
?
)
Boxes tab (What about keys that are functionally the same? Plz incorporate.)
Pet tab (Yes
)
Sticker tab (Yes)
Furniture tab (Yes)
Sorting options:
Chronological (time order)
Stats (which items have more stats than others)
EC value
Alphabetical
All good there. Also nice that we can choose to reverse the order for all of these options.
My bone (and it's a big one) to pick with this release, is with the choice to name a tab "stats".
Why? Because what's included in this is not only items that have stats, and it shouldn't be that either.
What the devs were going for with this tab isn't described by the word "stats" but it doesn't really have a commonly used term because the category is so large, most people don't bother referring to it.
The tab is more like something that includes everything tradable earnt via parties, hunts, spinner, and stories except furniture and boxes.
I think the choice to call it "stats" is weird and potentially very confusing because even between players, "stats" has no clear popular meaning.
The reason for its undefined nature is the loss of its strong origins and total overgeneralization.
I'm going to talk about the origins here because I think that the devs could use the info for a future update.
Origins of the term "stat" when referring to items.
I personally never use this word except when describing the stats of an item, not as a category of items unless it means "items with stats", but this is a redundant category and not one that I'd recommend anyone limit themselves to.
The term "stat" or "stats item" when used to categorize items was a way of diminishing or ignoring the significance of the rarity or appearance or popularity of a certain item.
Items began being either called a "stat" or "rare" depending on what someone thought of its value, to argue for a return to the "stat value", or above it.
"Stat value" has been a well known rate in the pimd community for the last 2+ years and is generally the value at which main story rewards (msr) or the most abundant and cheap items. Are valued.
If you say "that's a stat item" it means, "sell me that for the standard rate, as though nothing were special about it and all you know about it is its stats" , ignoring all other facets. On the inverse, if someone asks you for a rare item for too low a cost, you might say "it's a rare", meaning "it's rarer than that so it's worth more"
This became more popular. New players saw people saying "rares" and "stats", and some tried to split items into either one of the 2 categories, however this is unreliable because every item has both scarcity and stats.
As time progressed and this division between rare and stat remained a common concept, things deteriorated for 2 main reasons :
1- Many people didn't know that items which were worth more than the standard rate were worth more so they started to over-generalize "stat" and apply it to items that are rarer than MSR, especially side story rewards (SSR) which are often sold for the same rate as MSR.
2- The realization of the overpowered nature of miscellaneous bonuses.
Misc bonus became the pvp meta and so much of the old love for rare items died down as people flocked to buy as much misc bonus as they could as cheaply as possible which meant common and abundant MSR, affectionately and cringily referred to as misc and stats.
What does "stat item" mean today in the pimd community?
Recently, people have been using the term to refer to
Whenever anyone asks me for stat items, first thing I ask is what they have against statless items, because some statless items are very valuable.
But regardless of this, the point is that there is no concensus.
It seems that a.t.a have taken the next step with their "stats" tab, having it include bentos, spinner items, BB sets, and items without any stats at all. And I mean, sure. Needs a name. May as well be that IF there isn't a better alternative. And a.t.a can set the mandate here.
What does a hipster suggest it should it be?
TradeCase or TC for short. All the items you have that are tradable (except furni because that goes in dorm).
Does it have a history? Sure.
Tradable + Showcase.
Tradable being the word everyone uses to describe items which can be exchanged via gifts or the trade interface.
Showcase being the showcase.
Does it make more sense than "stats"?
Is it nifty enough? Short enough? Share thoughts, please.
(edits made for Lyssa)
Thanks all for your time. If you read everything, you're a legend. And if you read it all and wanna debate in the comments, you're an even bigger legend. Ty.
Update is 90% good.
Plz don't use "stats" improperly.
"Tradecase/TC" would be a better name for that showcase tab.
Let the improper use of "stats" die the death it deserves.
Ay yo, it's your local showcase/trading hipster with a long ass hot take about the new update.
Quick overview:
Favourites/Starred items?
/10Search Feature?
/10Visible furni? Yahhhhhh.../10
This will help to declutter the torrential spam of furniture advertising that has been going on for the past few years.
People will trade furni more often and get a better idea of the availability of furniture thanks to the added transparency.
Overall there are no negatives to a furniture tab unless ur a tradephobe.
Those were the biggest new features but we also have separate tabs for different types of items, as well as different ways to sort them all.
Let's go through some:
Tabs:
Gifts tab (Yah, sure.)
Stats tab (
!?!?!?)Boxes tab (What about keys that are functionally the same? Plz incorporate.)
Pet tab (Yes
)Sticker tab (Yes
)Furniture tab (Yes
)Sorting options:
Chronological (time order)
Stats (which items have more stats than others)
EC value
Alphabetical
All good there. Also nice that we can choose to reverse the order for all of these options. (Warning: entering geek zone!)
My bone (and it's a big one) to pick with this release, is with the choice to name a tab "stats".
Why? Because what's included in this is not only items that have stats, and it shouldn't be that either.
What the devs were going for with this tab isn't described by the word "stats" but it doesn't really have a commonly used term because the category is so large, most people don't bother referring to it.
The tab is more like something that includes everything tradable earnt via parties, hunts, spinner, and stories except furniture and boxes.
I think the choice to call it "stats" is weird and potentially very confusing because even between players, "stats" has no clear popular meaning.
The reason for its undefined nature is the loss of its strong origins and total overgeneralization.
I'm going to talk about the origins here because I think that the devs could use the info for a future update.
Origins of the term "stat" when referring to items.
I personally never use this word except when describing the stats of an item, not as a category of items unless it means "items with stats", but this is a redundant category and not one that I'd recommend anyone limit themselves to.
The term "stat" or "stats item" when used to categorize items was a way of diminishing or ignoring the significance of the rarity or appearance or popularity of a certain item.
Items began being either called a "stat" or "rare" depending on what someone thought of its value, to argue for a return to the "stat value", or above it.
"Stat value" has been a well known rate in the pimd community for the last 2+ years and is generally the value at which main story rewards (msr) or the most abundant and cheap items. Are valued.
If you say "that's a stat item" it means, "sell me that for the standard rate, as though nothing were special about it and all you know about it is its stats" , ignoring all other facets. On the inverse, if someone asks you for a rare item for too low a cost, you might say "it's a rare", meaning "it's rarer than that so it's worth more"
This became more popular. New players saw people saying "rares" and "stats", and some tried to split items into either one of the 2 categories, however this is unreliable because every item has both scarcity and stats.
As time progressed and this division between rare and stat remained a common concept, things deteriorated for 2 main reasons :
1- Many people didn't know that items which were worth more than the standard rate were worth more so they started to over-generalize "stat" and apply it to items that are rarer than MSR, especially side story rewards (SSR) which are often sold for the same rate as MSR.
2- The realization of the overpowered nature of miscellaneous bonuses.
Misc bonus became the pvp meta and so much of the old love for rare items died down as people flocked to buy as much misc bonus as they could as cheaply as possible which meant common and abundant MSR, affectionately and cringily referred to as misc and stats.
What does "stat item" mean today in the pimd community?
Recently, people have been using the term to refer to
- main story rewards,
- any story rewards,
- all showcase items that have stats (often, also excluding bentos, chibis, spin items, BB items, and "rares", however one defines that. But this is a very personal thing and varies greatly)
Whenever anyone asks me for stat items, first thing I ask is what they have against statless items, because some statless items are very valuable.
But regardless of this, the point is that there is no concensus.
It seems that a.t.a have taken the next step with their "stats" tab, having it include bentos, spinner items, BB sets, and items without any stats at all. And I mean, sure. Needs a name. May as well be that IF there isn't a better alternative. And a.t.a can set the mandate here.
What does a hipster suggest it should it be?
TradeCase or TC for short. All the items you have that are tradable (except furni because that goes in dorm).
Does it have a history? Sure.
Tradable + Showcase.
Tradable being the word everyone uses to describe items which can be exchanged via gifts or the trade interface.
Showcase being the showcase.
Does it make more sense than "stats"?
Is it nifty enough? Short enough? Share thoughts, please.
(edits made for Lyssa)
Thanks all for your time. If you read everything, you're a legend. And if you read it all and wanna debate in the comments, you're an even bigger legend. Ty.
