Autumn Springs

You people do realise that they didn't even have to introduce the option of fans and could just keep the avatars in boxes like all the other hunts where we had to rely completely on luck to get them and could open thousands and still not get the avatars. At least now we have the option of getting/buying fans to sure shot get the avatars (even though it's a lot of fans) and not be completely dependent on luck. As far as I can see, it's actually generous and not greedy. Quit ya whining.

Cute furnitures btw.
 
Arse said:
You people do realise that they didn't even have to introduce the option of fans and could just keep the avatars in boxes like all the other hunts where we had to rely completely on luck to get them and could open thousands and still not get the avatars. At least now we have the option of getting/buying fans to sure shot get the avatars (even though it's a lot of fans) and not be completely dependent on luck. As far as I can see, it's actually generous and not greedy. Quit ya whining.

Cute furnitures btw.
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I think people are upset because there aren't even any Story avatars, at least not at the usual 6k.
 
Tlachtga said:
Arse said:
You people do realise that they didn't even have to introduce the option of fans and could just keep the avatars in boxes like all the other hunts where we had to rely completely on luck to get them and could open thousands and still not get the avatars. At least now we have the option of getting/buying fans to sure shot get the avatars (even though it's a lot of fans) and not be completely dependent on luck. As far as I can see, it's actually generous and not greedy. Quit ya whining.

Cute furnitures btw.
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I think people are upset because there aren't even any Story avatars, at least not at the usual 6k.
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But there's furniture? It's greedy in my opinion to want everything for free.
 
Arse said:
Tlachtga said:
Arse said:
You people do realise that they didn't even have to introduce the option of fans and could just keep the avatars in boxes like all the other hunts where we had to rely completely on luck to get them and could open thousands and still not get the avatars. At least now we have the option of getting/buying fans to sure shot get the avatars (even though it's a lot of fans) and not be completely dependent on luck. As far as I can see, it's actually generous and not greedy. Quit ya whining.

Cute furnitures btw.
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I think people are upset because there aren't even any Story avatars, at least not at the usual 6k.
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But there's furniture? It's greedy in my opinion to want everything for free.
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I would pefer better avis over extra furni tbh
 
No one was complaining with the fans to begin with. I think it's an awesome concept and I love that there's furni instead of Avis in the story lines this time around. It changes things up and keeps things interesting. The reason people are upset is the random changes in prices. I've seen many people who worked and spent on getting to 200 fans only to find out the prices were doubled. I personally was going to spend on boxes but now won't be. The Avis are adorable and all but it's just not worth it.
 
One-EyedQueen said:
No one was complaining with the fans to begin with. I think it's an awesome concept and I love that there's furni instead of Avis in the story lines this time around. It changes things up and keeps things interesting. The reason people are upset is the random changes in prices. I've seen many people who worked and spent on getting to 200 fans only to find out the prices were doubled. I personally was going to spend on boxes but now won't be. The Avis are adorable and all but it's just not worth it.
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I've read a few posts complaining about how making fans drop from boxes and not from parties is "unfair" or "less enjoyable" or "not for f2p players." Box avatars are usually not for f2p players unless they are lucky. Nothing's changed there. The only thing that has changed is that this hunt rewards are furnitures instead of avatars. If a player does hunts only for avatars, this hunt is clearly not for them based on the current information available.

I agree it can be frustrating to have the prices increased, but it was a typo the devs made. Of course they are going to fix it. Regardless of the said increase, I find it better to have a guarantee for getting an avatar at 400 fans instead of opening thousands of boxes and still not getting the avatar.
 
A typo that was in bold lettering on the very first page took 2 hours and 17 minutes to adjust and correct. Also, this isn’t the first time ata has gone live with a event/hunt and had to make corrections. For example, this months avatars were suppose to be available for ec in the shop. Which was quickly pulled down and adjusted to be only purchasable through Molly’s corner. ( Please someone, anyone of you would like to explain to me how this is a typo and mistake and not just greed when they decided to launch this in the first place?) So let me get this straight, ata either one doesn’t check their announcements before posting and doesn’t bother looking at them for a long while. Or they constantly have remorse and keep deleting/editing until they are happy with how much revenue the event/hunt will bring in. Also for the people that don’t know how code works just a little PSA you have to type in the numbers in more than one place for it to work correctly ?. So if it was truly just a little typo mistake why were the fans both male and female coded to combine at 200 and 400 and also stated it in their description? But please, someone come at the players and call us greedy instead. Makes sense.
 
Elia said:
A typo that was in bold lettering on the very first page took 2 hours and 17 minutes to adjust and correct. Also, this isn’t the first time ata has gone live with a event/hunt and had to make corrections. For example, this months avatars were suppose to be available for ec in the shop. Which was quickly pulled down and adjusted to be only purchasable through Molly’s corner. ( Please someone, anyone of you would like to explain to me how this is a typo and mistake and not just greed when they decided to launch this in the first place?) So let me get this straight, ata either one doesn’t check their announcements before posting and doesn’t bother looking at them for a long while. Or they constantly have remorse and keep deleting/editing until they are happy with how much revenue the event/hunt will bring in. Also for the people that don’t know how code works just a little PSA you have to type in the numbers in more than one place for it to work correctly ?. So if it was truly just a little typo mistake why were the fans both male and female coded to combine at 200 and 400 and also stated it in their description? But please, someone come at the players and call us greedy instead. Makes sense.
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Hey folks, just popping in here to explain things a bit more.

For the fans, these were working correctly from the start the of the event. Meaning, they always required 400, and then 800, to combine into avatars. If you had collected 200, it would not have combined. The error was in display only, which we fixed within the first few hours of the event going live, at which point there weren't too many fans in rotation yet. We do apologize for that display error though, I know it sucks.

Why 400 instead of 200? Why not just change the data to 200 as originally stated in the post? This is not because we want to make it impossible for you to get. It's all about balance though. We try to find a balance so that it's doable with some work and effort (especially if you trade) while still being a challenge. Unfortunately we also have to consider alts, as sometimes easy to get things can be exploited that way.

With these avatars, instead of it just being based on luck from opening boxes, we wanted to provide an alternative, additional route of getting them, so it feels like you're working towards something. If you don't want to open boxes, you can trade for the fans. And if you don't care about the avis, you can trade your fans away and get other things. Again, this is completely additional, as the avatars still drop from the boxes as normal as well. And for those of you saying there are no other avatars to get in this hunt, keep in mind there are more Stories coming. : )

Lastly, regarding the September monthly avatars.. That original post was indeed posted by accident, it was an incorrect version. The avatars were never actually available for EC. We wanted to instead offer them as IAPs, as this way we can create them as bundles, giving you bonus EC and DNs with your purchase. This way we can offer them at a much better value than if you were to buy them directly for EC. It's something we're experimenting with.

We work as a team, which includes a bunch of different people doing different parts of the work. Sometimes mistakes happen, but we do our best to minimize them.

 
[ATA]Jean said:
Elia said:
A typo that was in bold lettering on the very first page took 2 hours and 17 minutes to adjust and correct. Also, this isn’t the first time ata has gone live with a event/hunt and had to make corrections. For example, this months avatars were suppose to be available for ec in the shop. Which was quickly pulled down and adjusted to be only purchasable through Molly’s corner. ( Please someone, anyone of you would like to explain to me how this is a typo and mistake and not just greed when they decided to launch this in the first place?) So let me get this straight, ata either one doesn’t check their announcements before posting and doesn’t bother looking at them for a long while. Or they constantly have remorse and keep deleting/editing until they are happy with how much revenue the event/hunt will bring in. Also for the people that don’t know how code works just a little PSA you have to type in the numbers in more than one place for it to work correctly ?. So if it was truly just a little typo mistake why were the fans both male and female coded to combine at 200 and 400 and also stated it in their description? But please, someone come at the players and call us greedy instead. Makes sense.
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Hey folks, just popping in here to explain things a bit more.

For the fans, these were working correctly from the start the of the event. Meaning, they always required 400, and then 800, to combine into avatars. If you had collected 200, it would not have combined. The error was in display only, which we fixed within the first few hours of the event going live, at which point there weren't too many fans in rotation yet. We do apologize for that display error though, I know it sucks.

Why 400 instead of 200? Why not just change the data to 200 as originally stated in the post? This is not because we want to make it impossible for you to get. It's all about balance though. We try to find a balance so that it's doable with some work and effort (especially if you trade) while still being a challenge. Unfortunately we also have to consider alts, as sometimes easy to get things can be exploited that way.

With these avatars, instead of it just being based on luck from opening boxes, we wanted to provide an alternative, additional route of getting them, so it feels like you're working towards something. If you don't want to open boxes, you can trade for the fans. And if you don't care about the avis, you can trade your fans away and get other things. Again, this is completely additional, as the avatars still drop from the boxes as normal as well. And for those of you saying there are no other avatars to get in this hunt, keep in mind there are more Stories coming. : )

Lastly, regarding the September monthly avatars.. That original post was indeed posted by accident, it was an incorrect version. The avatars were never actually available for EC. We wanted to instead offer them as IAPs, as this way we can create them as bundles, giving you bonus EC and DNs with your purchase. This way we can offer them at a much better value than if you were to buy them directly for EC. It's something we're experimenting with.

We work as a team, which includes a bunch of different people doing different parts of the work. Sometimes mistakes happen, but we do our best to minimize them.

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Thank you for clarifying Jean. It’s just frustrating when it keeps happening over and over again. Especially when you do put money into the game and/or invest in collecting combinables. I do appreciate the ata team taking the time to come up with different ideas to keep hunts and events special and interesting, I think a lot of us do.

As for taking alts into consideration, again I have to agree that some things do get taken advantage of. With this hunt in particular though the fans are not party drops. So even if your getting lite boxes from an alt that is 2 fans a day. Personally does seem pretty impossible to collect 1200 in 14 days.At the end of the day we all appreciate the art and game and it’s why we are here. Do I think that these issues could have been handled in a more timely and graceful manner? Yes, but I appreciate the clarity.
 
[ATA]Jean said:
Hey folks, just popping in here to explain things a bit more.

For the fans, these were working correctly from the start the of the event. Meaning, they always required 400, and then 800, to combine into avatars. If you had collected 200, it would not have combined. The error was in display only, which we fixed within the first few hours of the event going live, at which point there weren't too many fans in rotation yet. We do apologize for that display error though, I know it sucks.

Why 400 instead of 200? Why not just change the data to 200 as originally stated in the post? This is not because we want to make it impossible for you to get. It's all about balance though. We try to find a balance so that it's doable with some work and effort (especially if you trade) while still being a challenge. Unfortunately we also have to consider alts, as sometimes easy to get things can be exploited that way.

With these avatars, instead of it just being based on luck from opening boxes, we wanted to provide an alternative, additional route of getting them, so it feels like you're working towards something. If you don't want to open boxes, you can trade for the fans. And if you don't care about the avis, you can trade your fans away and get other things. Again, this is completely additional, as the avatars still drop from the boxes as normal as well. And for those of you saying there are no other avatars to get in this hunt, keep in mind there are more Stories coming. : )

Lastly, regarding the September monthly avatars.. That original post was indeed posted by accident, it was an incorrect version. The avatars were never actually available for EC. We wanted to instead offer them as IAPs, as this way we can create them as bundles, giving you bonus EC and DNs with your purchase. This way we can offer them at a much better value than if you were to buy them directly for EC. It's something we're experimenting with.

We work as a team, which includes a bunch of different people doing different parts of the work. Sometimes mistakes happen, but we do our best to minimize them.

Click to expand...
 
Elia said:
A typo that was in bold lettering on the very first page took 2 hours and 17 minutes to adjust and correct. Also, this isn’t the first time ata has gone live with a event/hunt and had to make corrections. For example, this months avatars were suppose to be available for ec in the shop. Which was quickly pulled
down and adjusted to be only purchasable through Molly’s corner. ( Please someone, anyone of you would like to explain to me how this is a typo and mistake and not just greed when they decided to launch this in the first place?) So let me get this straight, ata either one doesn’t check their announcements before posting and doesn’t bother looking at them for a long while. Or they constantly have remorse and keep deleting/editing until they are happy with how much revenue the event/hunt will bring in. Also for the people that don’t know how code works just a little PSA you have to type in the numbers in more than one place for it to work correctly ?. So if it was truly just a little typo mistake why were the fans both male and female coded to combine at 200 and 400 and also stated it in their description? But please, someone come at the players and call us greedy instead. Makes sense.
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I totally agree and it would be hard to get even for 200 fans
 
I prefer to buy an ava from the store tbh than opening 400 boxes or more to get a fan... wtf. And the worst is i can open 400 boxes and 200 would have a fan ? who the hell did the math ata?? Not trying to make it imposible to us... yeah right. Every day it passes i spend less on this
 
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