Most clubs don't have active cc but of course "active" can be defined differently. My clubs cc is relatively dead but I don't mind because I'm not on much. As for clubs not including you in your discussion, maybe you joined the wrong clubs because when I went through many clubs, all would talk to me. This game kind of doesn't favor club chat as much in that many players hit their farms then log off. They should increase the club limit (but allow to set a certain amount of people to join a war) to make cc more active or add a way for the club to get money together (other than volleying).