Drop Vollies 

Discussion in 'Strategy' started by Master-Gonzo-the-Phoenix, Jan 28, 2013.

  1. I like to do drop vollies and give money to my tutors, I will give you this offer forums since I'm saving my money....



















    I offer to you my formula so you can drop volley with your tutors too


    Amount the tutor earns: Let that be variable E
    Amount the pupil loses: Let that be variable L
    Amount pupil needs to have to keep all vollies: T

    T = E L

     L = E multiply by 1.5

    So, if you wanna know how much you lose just muliply by 1.5 to how much tutor gains.

    Only works if volleying only between you and person you dv to
     
  2. damn ._. forums needs plus the work

    T= E plus L *
     
  3. I wanna drop volley but dun hire me .
     
  4. So if I wanted to give someone 100m...
    I would lose about 150m?
    Total needed would be 250m?

    So does that mean I need to volley to 250m drop
    Volley to what I have left, drop
    Etc etc until I have only 100m remaining? And that would give the player 100m?

    Need examples or more explanation lol. And is this tested?
     
  5. Yes, i agree with rossco....

    More info below, but simply:
    The tutor needs 7 times the volley difference, plus the start price.
    The tutor keeps 15 percent of the volley difference.
    You loose 25 percent of the volley difference, plus 40 percent of the start price. The lower the start price, the less you loose, but the longer it takes / more vollies to transfer the money to the tutor.


    If I do a 0 to 100mil DV:
    Tutor gets 15 percent or 15 mill
    My cost is reduced by 15 percent because during the volley I also get some back. My cost is also reduced by the 60 percent of the final price I get back when dropped, so I only pay 75 percent total.

    So to give 15, I need 100 and it is going to cost 25. The give ratio is 15 over 100 so I (and the tutor) need to volley to 6.66666 times what i want to give.

    Now the percentages are not exact, and i don't make my 1.5 percent on the last sale (which is the drop), so let's say you need to volley to 7 times what you want to give, and you probably loose twice what you give.



    Now that was from zero..... Nobody wants to start at zero, it takes forever.
    If you start higher, you're going to lose more. The amount the tutor gets is still 15 percent of the difference between the volley start and finish. But since you the amount you loose is based on the total, not the difference, you're going to loose an additional 40 percent of the start price without giving any more.

    Example (in millions)
    0 to 500
    A difference of 500 so your tutor gets 15 percent or 75 mil
    You cost is reduced by 15 percent of difference too (75 mil), plus 60 percent of end (300 mil). So your cost was 125 mil (500-75-300) to give 75 mil
    A ratio of 500 total tutor needs over 75 to tutor gets or 6.66
    Your cost is 125 over 75 tutor gets or 1.66

    100 to 600
    A difference of 500 so your tutor gets 15 percent or 75 mil
    You cost is reduced by 15 percent of difference too (75 mil), plus 60 percent of end (360 mil). So your cost was 165 mil (600-75-360) to give 75 mil
    A ratio of 600 total tutor needs over 75 to tutor gets or 8
    Your cost is 165 over 75 tutor gets or 2.2

    Note that in the second example, your cost is 165 mill vs 125 in first. It is 40 mill higher in the second, which is 40 percent of the start price.
     
  6. Like I give a fuck how much a lose, anything for the homies, later on I'll make a ton

    Mauahah losers!
     
  7. So for Rossco to give 100 mil?

    Assuming you start at 100 mil:
    Tutor gets 15 percent of difference, so the difference needs to be 100/0.15 or 666 mil
    Tutor needs difference plus start or 666 plus 100 or 766 mil
    You loose 25 percent of difference (166 mil) plus 40 percent of start (40 mil) or 206 mil total
    Tutor gets 100
    Tutor needs 766
    You loose 206

    Assuming you start at 10 mil:
    Tutor gets 15 percent of difference, so the difference needs to be 100/0.15 or 666 mil
    Tutor needs difference plus start or 666 plus 10 or 676 mil
    You loose 25 percent of difference (166 mil) plus 40 percent of start (4 mil) or 170 mil total
    Tutor gets 100
    Tutor needs 676
    You loose 170

    By the lower start, you save 36 mil
     
  8. ._. you overcomplicated it...


    yes, it has been tested several times using billions of $.

    Not 15%, it is 150%


    So if I wanna give 10 bil,

    150 % is 15 bil

    You then need at least 25 bil.

    Well, maybe the wording is wrong... it has to do with how high of money you want that person to have.
     
  9. It basically means:

    You want to volley with your tutor until they have xxx amount? You'll lose this much and to keep it all you'll need at least xxxxx amount
     
  10. You should hire me
     
  11. Dan, don't get your example. If you volley from 0 to 25 billion, the other person will only end up with 15% extra, or 3.75 bill extra. Not 10 bill.

    Please clarify
     
  12. Example:

    You want your tutor to have 10 bil, they have 0( I guess....can have 1 bil)

    The guy who drops the vollies loses 150% of 10 bil. ( 15 bil)


    So, the person dropping should have more at least more than 25 bil to keep it all
     
  13. While your 10 bill transferred 15 bill lost/cost is close, it is only true if the volley starts at 0

    10 b / 0.15 = 66b (volley difference to xfer 10b)
    66b * 0.25 = 16.6 b (lost when dropped)

    But, since you loose 40% of the entire amount (not just the volley difference), if you start at 1 bil, you also loose 400mil extra compared to starting at zero.
     
  14. Hey noobs. 1k hire price at start.
     
  15. I think $1,000 is close enough to zero for the purposes of this discussion, when we are talking about 10 billion.
     
  16. Every 1k counts!!! 8D
     
  17. Noooo  you lose 60%, they gain the 40%


    So, example...


    If I have 1 trillion, that means If I wanted to DV to Freeze here I can give him 400 bil, and I'd lose 600 bil
     
  18. Loss of person dropping > Gain of person receiving