Before you read this whole thread, please note that all opinions matter, yes, that also means troll opinions matters as well. Also, please keep your comments under ToU and please don't try to get forum banned or silenced. Yes I do care... OP cares. Is it right or is it wrong or do you no longer know anymore? So we have all heard about how wrong it is to hit a female. We also know how wrong it is to solve violence with violence. But put yourself in the situations that others have been in when you watched videos and clips. Put yourself in their shoes and see if you could handle it how you said you would. Personally, I don't know what to believe anymore because of the simple fact that Chivalry doesn't exist anymore. And before anyone gets on me about how Chivalry is used in the medieval days: Chivalry: a courteous and respectful manner, especially towards women. Now that is today's meaning of Chivalry. I would personally like to know your thoughts about this. Do you think its right for every man to defend himself, even after he tried to walk away, or tried to restrain her, or of any of that sort? What about the students that are acting crazy in school? Do you think a teacher should be given the right to use force with consequences to control his/her class? My opinion on the school part is I definitely think a teacher should use force ONLY IF NECESSARY to control the class. A substitute teacher was trying to teach her class but the students in the classroom was acting up. This one student was hitting her with a bag of M&Ms, went in her purse, threw objects at her, even told her to sit her ass down, and he even picked up a chair and a desk and threatened to hit her with it. So please comment your opinions and what you think everyone has the right to do. Do you think it's right, or wrong, or do you no longer even know? And sorry for the long thread. If you ask for tl;Dr version, I'd be more than happy to give you one.
It is hard to say as every situation can be dif I'm some way. The teacher thing is simple tho. If a student is that bad in class he/she should be sent to the principal or guidance counselors. Most schools have ways to deal with a said students behavior. They could be suspended or expelled from school. Depending on how bad the history of the student most places (like in my state) does have a special school for behavior issue children. For the guy hitting the woman... It all deps. If the woman is tiny idt any man should out right bash her like she's another man. You can restrain or call for help if you can't walk away. Now note above would be like fists but no weapon or items that can cause real harm. If a woman say comes at you with a knife or gun... Ofc I'd expect anyone to do what is needed with a true threat or intentions to cause harm. If you think something is going to get out of hand, you should just leave before it takes place.
Well as I said before, I agree with the whole don't beat the woman down to a pulp. All I'm asking is do ppl believe everyone has a right to self-defense or do you not know anymore because if how the new generation is today and how messed up everything is? I ask myself these questions every time.
Its why I said it does hun. I don't think its 100% right as in most cases the guy is stronger than the woman. But that isn't always the case. It is also why I said it deps if its fists vs a woman using a weapon. Everyone yes should have a right to protect themselves. But you should also know when enough is enough. You need to back off.
I'm probably going to get bashed for this, but... The ONLY time, in my opinion, that a man should use physical violence against a woman is AFTER he has tried to walk away and calm down, told the woman to leave him alone, excluded himself ENTIRELY from the situation, and made it clear that her behavior was unwanted. There are some woman who do not know when enough is enough and they can't understand that in order for a situation to de-escalate, both parties have to exclude themselves from the conflict. I've seen woman (my sister) abuse their significant others (her ex-boyfriend) to the point where they are sitting in front of their door, unwilling to let the man leave, even after punching him, kicking him, biting him, screaming at him, saying VERY hurtful things to him, and overall just being abusive. This man, however, NEVER once retaliated in violence. He took the abuse, just like some woman take from their men. Men, however, are not angels. We mess up, too, and some of us get physically violent towards our significant others, some for no reason at all, some for the reasons I stated above, and some because they are out-of-control individuals that need some mental health therapy. It's really not something for society to look at and say "hitting your wife is wrong," or "hitting your husband is wrong." It depends on the couple, it depends upon the history they share in that relationship. It is no one else's place to say if it matters or not, because we aren't the ones dealing the blows, or taking them. Do I think it's wrong for a man to ABUSE or BEAT his wife, for ABSOLUTELY NO REASON? Hell yes it's wrong and those men should be tied to a post and shot execution-style. Do I think it's wrong for a woman to ABUSE or BEAT her husband, for ABSOLUTELY NO REASON? Hell yes it's wrong and those woman should be tied to a post and shot execution-style. Do I think it's wrong for a human being to protect themselves in the face of violence, especially if they fear their lives are in jeparody? Of course, regardless of gender. In the case of the teacher, it's totally different. I saw the news story on this this evening. As a parent, I know my children wouldn't treat another human being as that child treated his teacher. I have instilled in them, since birth, kindness and respect for other human lives. I would rather not have either of my daughters come home with a "my teacher spanked me" story. It is not the school system's responsibility to physically discipline our children. It is the parents' responsibility to teach their children how to behave at school, and respect the people who are paid minimal salaries to attempt to educate them. Its sad that a teacher had to endure that abuse at her job, but it is not her place to use force on the child of another. If parents were raising their kids, instead of doing drugs, partying, and having teen s3x and becoming parents while they are still babies themselves, we wouldn't have to see such things on the news every night. However, all that being said, if a teacher fears for their well-being in their place of work, they should re-assess their career choice. While I know children still need their education, people should realize the risks involved in the job before starting that degree path. In the world we live today, it's a wonder we even HAVE the teachers we do have, because of the way kids in school treat others and are misbehaving. That's my opinion.
That is a valid opinion that I can strongly support. But let's think outside of the relationship. We are talking about a man and a woman who don't even know each other. People think too much about a relationship wise man and woman. More people need to think about man and a woman that don't know each other. That's where opinions matters the most.
Society thinks relationships because, generally speaking, men don't just walk up to strange women and start beating them and women don't generally do the same to men. If a strange woman walked up to me and started hitting me, I'd most definitely hit back, to defend myself. If I did that to a strange woman, I would expect her to defend herself, too. If you're thinking in terms of things such as kidnappings and sexual assaults that begin with a strange man running up on a woman and hitting her with a crow bar to knock her out at midnight outside the bar, that's still very much in the box and almost unlikely to happen. Not saying things like that don't happen because they do, but the percentage of that happening versus a man beating his significant other and woman hitting her significant other is a large difference. In the end, however, no matter the situation at hand, every human life matters and people should defend themselves if their life or well-being are in imminent danger. By many states' laws, self defense is a justifiable reason for taking another person's life.
It depends on how sane the people are example: I look good and use hygiene everyday but I'm sorta ugly inside, it means I'll regret putting a foot into that situation example: I'm pretty inside and exotic outside, I hit and run I hit and push I exercise the hit. Given a few excuses it works just fine, otherwise the chivalry has reaped the best today and tomorrow I don't see why its in the dictionary but in terms of sane chivalry is a lie even there. Thanks for the thread
Gender doesn't matter. If you're in danger, you protect yourself. The kind of violence we look down on is needless slaughtering and hurting the weak. And I think chivalry exists just not in the way we're taught. We're supposed to protect each other from violence because there should be no room for that. It's not about being a man. It's about being human.