tl;dr

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by IMPOSTER_CatfishCherryTomato, Jul 18, 2015.

  1. Warning: like all my other threads this will probably be tl;dr. Also, it's pretty depressing of a subject...



    "The joke is, we all have the same punch line."
    Chuck Palahniuk

    So I've been asking myself a question lately, about how when people have terminal illnesses and are in a lot of pain...why we wish so hard for them to stay around. I was just thinking in my opinion it's personally kinda selfish.

    I personally wouldn't want to live like that, in a lot of pain but still kept living...I would want to pass in some sort of peaceful way...however that may be.


    Which leads me to my next musing, if I knew I was going to get some sort of illness no matter what I do because of genetics; would I try to prevent it even though I know already I have a high probability no matter what...or would I just say screw it and live life the way I want?

    Personally I believe if I'm going to get it anyway...I would rather live my life the way I want to, and enjoy what I want to...instead of watching everything obsessively for fear of getting it...to me it's all about living a fulfilling life...and watching everything living in fear isn't leading a fulfilling life...to me at least.

    All in all, I guess I just don't wanna fight against the unknown..when my time comes I hope that I have been happy and productive in my life.

    I really would like to ask others for their perspectives on my questions and musings, I know they're probably pretty jumbled...

    Warning: if you try to start a fight you will be asked to leave. Try to have a open mind and don't get heated... I just really want to know what others think...


     
  2. future is unknown. everyday is a gift which is why its called the present. enjoy everyday
     
  3. You read fast, I like you. :)
     
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  5. Wow Cherry, that's deep. But I see where you're coming from tbh. I honestly hope I pass in a peaceful way & if I knew what was to come to me and I couldn't fight it, I would go through it & die that way I don't have to suffer. Even though I would be putting my loved ones in agony.
     
  6. Death is always around. It balances everything out. Without death, there would be no life. Without life, there would be no death. Why be alive and suffer if you can't die? Why be dead when you didn't get to live?
     
  7. i agree
     
  8. That kitty is cute as fuck.

    Also, I think it's bc life is so precious, and many of us believe we only will ever get one shot at the lives we have. So, we hope for that individual to experience a better life than the one in which they currently are experiencing (that being one of pain, hopelessness, fear, etc). For me, I wanted the individual to stick around for selfish reasons: I didn't know what I'd do without her.

    Anyway, provocative topic.
     
  9. It's meant to be thought provoking...
     
  10. I think that when people want people to stick around usually it's with the hope that they get better. But I think there's a point for everyone, as someone whose watched both her parents lose their parents that you know they're never going to get better but you don't want them to leave you and yes that's selfish, because now you're not thinking about them you're think about yourself. But it's the kind of selfish that comes not from a place of personal gain but that's founded on what began as mutually beneficial situation (symbiotic) but is now detrimental to one party. I think that when the person that no longer wants to live decides that they no longer want to live that should be respected. Because pain is no joke. The human will can only last so long against immense pain and grief combined. It's a difficult decision for anyone to make to say "okay I'm ready to go" so when it is made people should respect it.

    Tbh if I was genetically destined to have an illness I would do everything I could to try to prevent it, but if it wasn't preventable then I'd definitely live my life the best I could before I got it and the best I can with it until I die, that's all you can do really. You can't live your life in fear of what might or will happen or else you won't have a life. You'll have an empty shell you pretend is a life.
     

  11. Dang girl. I agree with everything you just said.
     
  12. if i get ill i will make sure to die in a way everyone will remember I will write history.
     
  13. My perspective changes day to day and situation to situation. The subject is complicated because not every terminal illness is the same. The more I feel like people are depending on me, the more cautious I feel I need to be so that I can be there for them. I am far more reckless when I feel like everyone around me is doing well.

    If being sensible would prolong my life and reduce the risk of the symptoms developing at an early age, then yes, indeed, I would take the necessary steps to extend the time I have before the onset of the illness.

    Personally, I am proud of the accomplishments I have achieved so far and I have made even more plans for my future. Hypothetically speaking, the diagnoses of a terminal illness would do nothing more than accelerate my actions to turn my dreams into something more tangible sooner.

    My university entrance essay was a research paper on euthanasia. Then, in my younger years, I was thinking very critically and looking to the stars, questioning everything extensively. More recently though, I try not to focus on the hypothetical or idealistic daily, but more on what is right in front of me; facing each situation as it comes. I do appreciate this moment to reflect on mortality.

    I think death is as personal as life is. When we lose a loved one it is easy to be selfish and honestly, I think there is no better time to have those feelings because it will show the loved one you are losing how much you care about them. The loved one, however, is going to lose many loved ones. I think it is important to remember that if the afterlife is a complete disconnection from this dimension and existence, then the person passing away is losing "everything". Sometimes as mourners we can be insensitive to this.

    Great post
     
  14. I would think it deps on the illness at hand. Some you might have a long fight ahead and some you have no way around it but death.


    I guess for me it would really depend on what state the person is in. If my daddy was sick & dying I'd fight like hell and do anything I could to see him through it. Even if he's in pain. Ppl may call me selfish for this tho. I just love my daddy too much. Even tho no one can avoid death bcuz its apart of life... I'm just not ready to let go. He's been my rock most of my life. Hell he's not the crying type n something has to be really wrong for him to do so. When he's talked to me n cried n tells me he thinks something is gonna happen to me after. Just bcuz we are too close n he feels I might not pick back up again...


    I guess we come to a point with our loved ones that we just want to hold on. Bcuz the fact they are gone the next can break anyone's heart.


    Everyday we wake up is blessing to the time we get home n go back to sleep. You had another day to live. Yet others are just getting news ,prob even this min while I'm typing this, that a loved one is gone.


    If you can try to prevent something why not. But don't get so bad or only focused to the point you're not really living anymore. Its a true blessing each day you get. So live it well & don't dwell on all the negatives life my hand you.