Im not from the us grim... So i couldn't tell you where all your debt is coming from... I just know you have WAY too much of it! In the area of Canada that in from we have a huge problem Provincialy with people sitting on welfare. Businesses are desperately trying to hire but the government is paying better just to sit at home.
Also if im right grim Americans pay into social security their whole working life... So i can hardly see how thets free money when you finally gey it back
And you are referring to the Tragedy of the Commons, which is not a "founding father" concept, but an inherent danger in all organized societies. Psalm 112:9 9 He has distributed freely; he has given to the poor; his righteousness endures forever; his horn is exalted in honor. Government is by the people and for the people. We are bound by moral covenant to aid the least among us, not make them the scapegoats for our own wicked choices.
Multistriker you're an idiot who spouts off drivel without even understanding the implications of your proposals. Grim...you are completely right. This thread is evidence of why some people need to forever refrain from subjects of higher thinking until after they've stopped suckling their mother's teat and spewing the same vitriolic nonsense of their fathers.
Oh no, I disagree. Multistriker brings up an excellent point. Most governments now exist separately from the will of the people. Fewer people vote, and power is concentrated into fewer hands. The whole point of the enlightenment was to create a model of government whereby equality and liberty were balanced and robust. We now live in a tiered society where the privileged few enjoy liberty while the rest of us are crushed into a paste of equality. Citizens are largely disempowered and at the mercy of circumstance. I just disagree with the idea that the shiftless poor are to blame. They are a symptom of decay, not the cause.
Im not impling that we are not moraly obligated to take care of people in need... Only that it is not the responsibility of the government to forcefully take from a hard working taxpayer in order to buy up votes. And like i said earlier.. Im not from the US so im not sure exactly how your government is digging your grave. But were im from votes are bought up like candy through needless entitlements
And grim. Im not talking about the poor... Although i don't believe that the poor are the government's responsibility at all... Ive had perfectly able bodied workers quit for me because their benifits got cut off as soon as they got a job.... If thats not corruption tell me what is
Is their something you would like to add or correct me on Sayisha? Or did you just get a sudden case of verbal diarrhea?