Get Philosophical With Me

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by WhoTfIsWesday, Oct 27, 2019.

  1. She might not have even remembered doing the shots... not necessarily because of the alcohol, but more because she perhaps didn't realize the issue it would cause and then because she was never confronted about it. She may have [then-]recently remembered that she did that, and that that was likely the reason for the problems with her roommates.

    I know I've had years later realizations of things I did wrong in friendships, that I hadn't necessarily done with bad intentions and didn't realize it was crossing a boundary, and that the other party hadn't raised the issue with me. When they started getting "shady," it seemed out of the blue for me and so I developed hard feelings too. It always kind of sad to realize I was probably the one originally in the wrong and had never known.
     
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  2. That might be a part of it. She's also just a very paranoid person and thinks everyone is actively trying to hurt her, including people who have loved her for years. She always was but she had some head trauma that made it much worse. For example, she spent months thinking her grandma was poisoning her food and refused to eat. Since it's a mental health thing it's actually kinda huge and a big step in the right direction that she realized she was at fault at all.
     
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  3. Oh, man. :( That's really awesome that she was able to realize that and verbally admit she was in the wrong. Mental health issues aside, a lot of people would be too proud to be like, "Hey those girls I've been trashing all this time for being rude to me? Well, I think I was mean to them first..."
     
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  4. Whats a Jell-O shot
     
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  5. Liquor in the form of jell-o in a shot glass. It makes it tastier to eat. Also how college students get black out drunk too quick because it tastes good and they don't realize how much alcohol they're consuming
     
  6. Oh we all realised, that was kind of the point ๐Ÿ˜
     
  7. I was telling Oni because she asked
     
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  8. I had my first jell-o shot at my bf's 21st bday party last weekend and it was fucking disguuuusting. Did NOT taste good at all. I drank a bunch of lemonade to wash the bitterness out of my mouth. ๐Ÿคฎ
     
  9. Just go for the classic rum or vodka and coke, and if you donโ€™t like the taste of the vodka, have it with orange juice, you can basically only taste orange then ๐Ÿ’†๐Ÿผโ€โ™€๏ธ not that I condone drinking excessively of course ๐Ÿ‘€
     
  10. I'm not 21 yet (a few more months), which is the legal drinking age where I am, so I haven't really experimented much with alcohol yet and have only enjoyed the occasional wine cooler. From what I've heard, some of the heavier alcohols are a bit of an acquired taste. I'll keep these recommendations in mind for my bday, though, (especially the OJ one) because I definitely do like fruity drinks!
     
  11. To be fair, the word "tastier" when applied to alcohol is usually only agreed upon by people who can already tolerate the taste of alcohol.
     
  12. Ah yeah of course, Iโ€™m a Scottish lass so itโ€™s 18 here, generally all drinks are alright if you have them with mixers, itโ€™s once you get to straight whisky and stuff you need to kind of work your way in with ice and stuff, youโ€™ll be fine
     
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  13. I figured. I'm an extremely picky eater, so something tells me I'm going to be very picky with my alcohols too. My bf had a riot over me struggling to finish the itty bitty jell-o shot. ๐Ÿ˜‚
     
  14. Please donโ€™t call me she
     
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  15. Otay
     
  16. I mean. It's literally poison so it's always gonna taste like poison. If you're out drinking and at any point it stops tasting bad, you've drunk too much and need to stop.
     
  17. To continue with the discussion, I request all of you to read a thought experiment. https //www.utilitarian.net/singer/by/199704--.htm
    This discusses how we psychologically out weight costs and benefits. When people weren't able to sufficiently explain such behaviours with rationalised cost benefit approach, many new theories in psychology were hypothesised. The theory which best explains it is Value Based Norm Activation Theory.
     
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  18. Coke with vodka? What? Disgusting.

    Whiskey or rum with coke.


    Vodka, Malibu and OJ are the perfect combination

    Seagram's 7 and 7 Up = heaven
     
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  19. As an optimistic mother focker. I believe that yes, people can selfless.



    I'm tired and I have to sleep, so I'll be quick and probably all over the place.



    So i thought about it a bit



    And i asked myself



    "can people be selfless?"



    And



    Well, if humans by instinct can be, aggressive, selfish, violent...etc Then why not selfless???? Why do we always have to be the bad guys? Why do we always have to have or give a motive behind every good action? Do have so little faith in ourselves? Lol



    But lemme give an example.



    Ex: a man is walking down the street - sees a RANDOM kiddo playin basketball, the ball goes to the middle of the street - the kiddo runs to get it and doesn't notice a huge truck incoming.

    The man doesn't think twice. He's like "OH SHIT!" Runs to the kiddo and pushes him out the way while gettin hit by the truck.

    That right there is a split second impulsive decision. No thoughts. Just a pure selfless act.

    I doubt that man would have enough time to think "shiiit if i save that kiddo ima be a hero!" Or "if i save that kid I'll be on the news and famous bwahahha!"

    It was implied in this thread that there is an ulterior motive or thought behind kind/selfless acts.

    That action is a pure instinct.
    It's selfless.
    The man wasn't the kid's parent. There'd be no need to save him, right?. The man wouldn't have time to think about whether he'd feel "happiness" or not for saving the kid at that spot. He wouldn't have time to think if he'd feel "guilty" if he didn't save the kid or not.

    It would all be too fast to think. Would it not?

    Just a pure selfless act based on instinct, would it not be?

    I'm sure at some point in time, each and erryone of ya has done one selfless thing on just pure instinct. Ya just probably never realized it because perhaps it wasn't that big of a gesture like saving a kiddo, but yehhhh.

    I think we're at this weird thing - where we wanna give layers to everything, every action every thought, tbh


    Yo, i was gon keep going as i had a few other point's vut ima sleep.
     
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  20. @Gintoki you're doing that thing where ppl assume selfish is a negative thing. It isn't inherently negative. I don't have little faith in humans, as you state. In your example, your thought is that he didn't have time to think about it and that makes it selfless. A lot of people don't think about any of the things they do prior, that doesn't make it selfless. It's subconscious thought. I wasn't saying you have to have some huge ulterior motive that you scheme out prior to doing a thing, it's that ultimately he saved the child for himself. People are horrified by other people getting injured because they know what injury feels like and they imagine it happening to themselves. He would've been severely traumatized had he not made an attempt to save the kid, therefore it is his instinct to do that. Not everyone has that instinct but having it doesn't make it selfless. Some people also have a hero complex. Helping people is how they get validation (again, that is not necessarily negative thing, everyone needs validation in some way), whether from other people or just from their own internal pride so someone with a hero complex would also instinctually do something like that. I don't believe anyone has ever done anything selfless. Not because they're horrible ppl but because every action we take, even the ones that might harm us in certain ways, are still benefitting us in some way. I think you assumed I wrote this out from a misanthropic point of view which wasn't intended. There are other philosophical arguments that could be made about other things like: there is no such thing as free will. Which I also possibly believe. Idk I think about it anyway. But it ties in interestingly w this, so.